Cameras and safety

Tulio · **Joined:** Mon May 03, 2004 1:05 am **Posts:** 3236

Okay, probably not something that y'all talk about every day, but . . .

With cameras, lenses, etc. either in your backpack or a carrying case, the dollar value of the equipment we carry, is pretty steep.

Wherever I go, that it is not an airport or a military base, I carry, as long as it is legal to do so.

I have the appropriate documentation to do so, and this comes not only from the monetary value of the equipment, but also from the sites where I end up going, out of the way and with anyone looking at the camera or lenses when I am shooting, I hope that no one will get the wrong idea and will try to own my stuff without paying for it.

Your thoughts? Your precaution measures?

Saludos,

Tulio

Scott Rose · **Posted:** Wed Mar 08, 2006 12:11 pm

I think it depends on where you go and if your alone. When I go into Boston to shoot I usually try and bring a friend. But if I was travelling alone alot I'd probably get a permit to carry as well.

Ollie · **Posted:** Wed Mar 08, 2006 12:14 pm

What's this chatter about a permit about?

:shock:

mrhenniger · **Posted:** Wed Mar 08, 2006 12:41 pm

There are very few place, so few I can't really think of any, where I would feel uncomfortable trying to take a picture. However, when I was in NC and I stopped by the ANG bases and saw a buch of AH-64s on the ramp my sixth sense told me not to get the camera out. I hadn't passed a sign that said "No Tresspassing" or hinted in anyway that access was restricted. It appeared it was supposed to be a publically accessible area, but getting the camera out to get a picture of a AH-64 or two didn't seem like the right thing to do. Thoughts anyone?

I too would like to know more about the "permits" Scott is referring to.

Tulio... I am not realy sure where you were going with your post. Can you clarify?

Mike

Eric Friedebach · **Posted:** Wed Mar 08, 2006 2:46 pm

EDIT: Removed silly comment that is only adding to the confusion.

TimAPNY · **Posted:** Wed Mar 08, 2006 3:01 pm

Shooting pictures on Military bases or of Military bases can be very touchy. I was not really suppose to have my camera on the "Operational" side of the Navy base I was stationed at (the Airfield side) but I did not pay attention to that at all and always had my camera in the shop or flight line.

I also sewed a sock into my float coat when on the aircraft carrier. I’d slip my camera in it at the beginning of each shift. That way I had a camera on me during flight ops. Generally that was my Sure shot, but I would often go up on deck off shift with my SLR to get “better” shots. I was never question or yelled at, but I lived on deck so I know the ropes and what not to do.

I’ll pass on ”carrying”, A good head on our shoulders and a great situational awareness will get you out of 99.9% of problems.

O.P. · **Posted:** Wed Mar 08, 2006 5:05 pm

Picture taking, or anything airplane (only picture taking I do) I've never felt the need. Other than that, I don't go places that require it.

Just curious Tulio, for personal info only, I plan on being a Texas citizen in the future, is there places there, while airplane picture taking that you would feel compelled to carry?

I know you travel a lot, and I can understand it in a heck of a lot of places.

Tulio · **Joined:** Mon May 03, 2004 1:05 am **Posts:** 3236

Well, to clarify the issue a little bit:

I not only take photos of airplanes (and I am fully aware where not to carry, OK?) so I take roads that go nowhere, secondary roads, etc., always looking for that special mountain or lake for a good shot.

BUT, travel in these here US of A, involves -if done by land, like yours truly- covering long distances, stopping in out of the way places, rest stops, etc.

Now, I would never carry anything not authorized into any airport or military base, nor would I, shoot photos of military aircraft on a military base, unless clearly authorized, in order to avoid any possible misunderstandings.

If I cannot shoot a photo of an airplane, I am sure that someone already has photos of it, so it is safer to ask than to risk.

My original posting had to do with the monetary value of all the equipment we carry and how to adequately protect it.

As for OP's becoming a Texan citizen: mossey over here as soon as you can, y'hear?

And, most places in Texas are OK to travel, but the distances are unbelievably long, you may have to stop and rest somewhere and no help will be available; you will be on your own for a while.

There are some bad critters out there, and precaution is the word. Bases and airports, if accesible, are safe as far as I can tell; but roads and some cities and towns, are something else, not only in Texas but all throughout the lower 48.

Saludos,

Tulio

Roger Cain · **Posted:** Wed Mar 08, 2006 8:05 pm

As it has yet to be defined clearly, for our friends outside of the US, the term "carry" means to carry a weapon, such as a handgun. Permits are required in some states, in some states their not. I believe in Texas, you can strap on a sidearm, without a permit; California is a very difficult place to get a concealed permit, beware for those that do come to this state, as your states permit may not be legal here. Some states will allow you to protect your property, such as your camera gear, some will not, it's a personal choice/risk should you decide to.

Most of the airport areas I've travelled to around CA, I've never felt the need to "carry". But anytime I go camping in the mountains, I usually do.

Orvis, your bailing out on us? Tell me this isn't true........

Eric Friedebach · **Posted:** Wed Mar 08, 2006 8:37 pm

Here’s a site that lists reciprocal permits for those of us that travel within the US.

Ollie · **Posted:** Wed Mar 08, 2006 9:09 pm

Ah, carrying a weapon.

Uninteresting then.

I don't go into war zones.

TimAPNY · **Posted:** Wed Mar 08, 2006 9:51 pm

Camping and Firearms (as I prefer to refer to them as) were meant for each other. I have to carry a rifle or carbine as I don't have a NY permit for a handgun. :minigun:

I try to keep my camera gear close and out of site when I can. Looking unimportant and poor helps out too.

Tim

Tulio · **Joined:** Mon May 03, 2004 1:05 am **Posts:** 3236

"I believe in Texas, you can strap on a sidearm, without a permit;"

You cannot openly strap on a sidearm in Texas, and the only way you can carry a weapon, as a civilian, is concealed.

Concealed carry permits must be applied for, and after undergoing background checks and receiving class and range training, you must qualify with your weapon for the permit / license.

Other than law enforcement, the only weapons that you see openly in Texas are hunting rifles or shotguns, usually in the back window of pick up trucks, and this in rural areas if at all.

Saludos,

Tulio

Tulio · **Joined:** Mon May 03, 2004 1:05 am **Posts:** 3236

Edited.

Tulio

O.P. · **Posted:** Thu Mar 09, 2006 4:55 am

Roger Cain wrote:

Orvis, your bailing out on us? Tell me this isn't true........

Hi Roger!

Yep. It'll be a couple of years, but yeh, I think I'm outta here. I got some friends who moved to Austin a couple of years ago. They went from San Jose to Austin. They be living in the freakin millionaire house now.

I have nothing, But, a 1 bedroom condo in my neighborhood costs 500+ K now. I love where I live, Moutain View. I'd never want to leave here. I'm right off the end of Moffett Field, both at home and at work. I love it. I'm a block from downtown, all the food and beer, and everyone knows me. I just sit down, and they bring me the best chow in the world. The bay area is warbird mecca also. It'll be hard, but....

I don't require much in the way of space, ex submarine sailor and all. For the cost of what I spend in cigarettes and beer every month, or even eating lunch out every month, I can have a pad in Austin or San Marcos.

The plan is to get a pad down there. Pay the down payment at least. Dude, the mortgage payment equals a Starbucks job. Thats my limit. If a Starbucks job won't pay for it, I shouldn't be buying it. That is totally doable. I pay over a grand a month to live in the one bedroom hole I live in now.

It always amazed me when I went to South Carolina, when I was at another job, to see that everyone there, had a house. I saw it again in Austin. Who woulda thunk it? A two bedroom sh1thole in a marginal neighborhood doesn't cost 800+k.

A place to live, that doesn't depend on making a half a zillion dollars a month to live in. Bottom line, Starbucks job, if that don't pay for it, I don't wanna be there.

(Edited out BS job stuff. I read it later, and didn't like the way I sounded. The point being, the last person who should care about my job, is me.)

If a starbucks job covers living, I can get a high profile job like, washing airplanes, gassing airplanes, maybe work up to working on them. I am planing to get to A&P license one of these decades. Maybe I can work up to doing annual's on 172's.

That would be a good deal. In the airplane world, if it ain't in the book, it ain't happening. Very unlike the geek world.

I need to get a couple three airplane things done with geek money before I'm out, but I can pass on them as long as I got a pad down there.

And, Dude, have you seen, or been around the women down there? Ahhhhhh maaannn, If I never see another Bay Area chick, of any sort, I'll be good to go.

Too much information.

On topic.
At least I can go home and get my toys and take them down there. It'd be nice to go shooting once in a blue moon. Or even talk about it without being branded as a psycho killer. Or even have a different opinion without having the same result. It would also be nice nice to meet people who's first question out of their mouth is not "Where do you work?".

More off topic California garbage. Sorry folk's.

Sorry about the rant. A beer or ten helped.

Roger, I'm going to do a project and I need to ask you a question. Can you PM me?

Thanks,
Orvis

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