P-36 to fly at POF airshow this weekend

[Warbird Kid]

All three would look great together.

Okay.

[dors]

All three would look great together.

Okay.

great, now can you add the red bull p-38?

[Dan Jones]

So both this one and the French Hawk are owned by TFC? Has anyone got any info about where it came from? Is it new build? Somebody sure knows how to keep a secret!

[Triplane102]

Just guessing, is this, or what about the one (Hawk 75?) at the Omaka Aerodrome in NZ ??? a shot in the dark !

[27th pursuit]

Good evening I do have some info on this. I was contacted a few months ago about researching this particular aircraft, the serial number on of this P-36C is 38-210. I was told it is the last one built, and it was delivered to Selfridge and joined the 27th pursuit in May of 39. I don't have anymore info other than they wanted it to carry the markings of the 27th before the experimental camouflage they had at the 1939 air races.
I believe they did a good job

[Chris Brame]

Thanks for the info 27th Pursuit! 38-210 was a P-36C; nothing in Baugher about it but Aviation Archaeology has two accident reports, both ground loops causing Category 3 damage, in April 1941 and April 1942:
http://www.aviationarchaeology.com/src/ ... Submit4=Go

[gemmer]

Beautiful airplane. I've always wondered how that aircraft would have compared to the P-40 if they had simply continued updating the radial in lieu of replacing it with an inline...

Anyone know how much airframe commonality there is with the P-40?

A single P-36A was fitted with a two stage, two speed version of the R-1820, which also powered the F4F. Despite the added weight, speed was increased to around 340 mph which was still not as fast as
the P-40. However, given the advanced supercharging, the altitude performance would have been better than a standard P-36A or P-40, both of which had single stage single speed superchargers. I believe that airframe commonality between the P-36 and P-40s up to and including the P-40C was from the firewall back.

Duane

[florida.warbirds]

This was posted on facebook about the P-36.

This is last Curtiss P-36C constructed Serial No. 38-210. Built in 1939 and delivered to Selfridge Field, Michigan in May 1939. She participated in the 1939 Cleveland Air Races in September 1939 with experimental camouflage.
She participated in the War Games at Maxwell Field following the Air Races.
She was sent to Wright Patterson for testing in 1940 and then on to serve with several different squadrons on the U.S. East Coast.
In 1942 she was sent to Chanute Technical Training Command for a few months, thereafter she was labeled obsolete and flown to Buckley field in Colorado.
She was put into a Tech School following her decommission and was later acquired by a Pratt & Whitney Tech instructor from Canada, where she resided until a Florida collector acquired it and passed her on to The Fighter Collection more than a decade ago.
The restoration commenced some four years ago, under the leadership of Matt Nightingale at Chino, California when sufficient original parts capable of overhaul were recovered to ensure that the aircraft could be completed to fly. Steve Hinton carried out the shakedown flights and the FAA certified P-36C made it first public appearances at the 2015 Planes of Fame Airshow, in unique flights with the Museum’s Sikorsky P-35 in similar markings.

[Mark Allen M]

P-36C's at the 1939 Cleveland Air Races

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_NlDKohGfU


USAAC 15th PG, 27th PS, Willis Taylor, Cleveland Air Races September 1939


USAAC 15th PG, 27th PS, Willis Taylor, Cleveland Air Races September 1939




P-36C Hawks (Hawk 75L) of the 27th Pursuit Squadron (27PS) parked on the flight line at Selfridge Field, Michigan, in September of 1939



... and I'm pretty sure this is Curtiss P-36C Serial No. 38-210 ...

[Chris Brame]

Thanks for the info! Interesting to note that the two surviving USAAC P-36s are the very first (38-1) and very last (38-210) built. Are there any photos of it at the tech school or with the previous owner? Was it in OD and gray when it was retired, and can you name the tech school?

[GregP]

The nice new shiny P-36 was built by Matt Nightengale and is for Steven Grey in Duxford where the also shiny Curtiss P-40 that was built by Matt went. We hope it stays around at least for awhile but, in the end, it is up to the owner when it leaves Chino.

[Mustang51]

That aircraft is so beautiful. Lots of questions to fill in the history which I am very interested in :-
Were there other USAAC unit assignments other than 1st and 61st Pursuit Sqns after 27th?
Was it used by US Army Air Corps Technical Training School at Buckley?
When was the aircraft decommissioned?
Where and what civil (I assume) technical school was it used by and for how long?
What was the name of the P & W instructor and did he store it in Canada (where) of was it stored in USA?
Who was the Florida collector?

This is a truly magnificent addition to the ranks of inter and early war machines and the fact that it has lain dormant for so long begs the question as to what else is out there.

[JohnTerrell]

The Global Aviation Resource website has posted a new article about this P-36 restoration with further confirmation that it will be displayed at this year's Flying Legends airshow at Duxford, coming up in July. Some more excellent photography of this beautiful restoration as well: http://www.globalaviationresource.com/v ... g-legends/

[hurricane_yank]

Too bad it won't stick around long enough to make a stop at Oshkosh before heading across the pond.

[GregP]

Correction to my post above. Three different people told me the P-36 had flown for the first time the day before the airshow but apparently that isn't quite the case. I didn't ask Steve Hinton because it was airshow time and he was busier than a bee at the time.

Steve says they had 6+ hours on it before the show. So it was new ... but not quite THAT new.

Just thought I'd set the record straight. Sorry for the quick post of inaccurate information.