Glacier Girl not flying this year?
Mon Apr 03, 2006 8:22 am
Mon Apr 03, 2006 8:27 am
The link tells me I must be a mamber of AOPA (which I ain't) to log in.
Without even seeing the article, I'd be willing to bet that it's not going to fly until the estate is settled. If I were one of the heirs, (which I also ain't), you can bet I'd be totally against putting her in the air til I got my share. After all, that thing's worth a gang of $$$$$.
Needless to say, they'll never get out of it what's invested in it.
Mudge the protective
Without even seeing the article, I'd be willing to bet that it's not going to fly until the estate is settled. If I were one of the heirs, (which I also ain't), you can bet I'd be totally against putting her in the air til I got my share. After all, that thing's worth a gang of $$$$$.
Needless to say, they'll never get out of it what's invested in it.
Mudge the protective
Mon Apr 03, 2006 12:46 pm
I heard a rumor that Glacier Girl has been grounded. I can't remember where I heard it, and I have no idea if it is true or not...
Btw, I'm pretty sure that GG was owned by the Lost Squadron Museum and not Mr. Schoffner. If that is the case their should not be an estate issue with the airplane.
Jim
Btw, I'm pretty sure that GG was owned by the Lost Squadron Museum and not Mr. Schoffner. If that is the case their should not be an estate issue with the airplane.
Jim
Mon Apr 03, 2006 4:27 pm
P38F, N17630 is registered to Lost Squadron Museum Middlesburg, Ky
Mon Apr 03, 2006 6:30 pm
mudge......... your theory is right on the money, figuratively speaking!! 
Mon Apr 03, 2006 6:32 pm
Unless he was the owner of the museum... Museums don't have to be publicly held after all. He could have loaned the plane to the non-profit arm of the museum that accepts public donations.AirJimL2 wrote:Btw, I'm pretty sure that GG was owned by the Lost Squadron Museum and not Mr. Schoffner. If that is the case their should not be an estate issue with the airplane.
Tue Apr 04, 2006 12:57 pm
[quote="Mudge"]The link tells me I must be a mamber of AOPA (which I ain't) to log in.
From AOPA:
"Glacier Girl to stay hangared this year
The Lockheed P-38 Lightning recovered in Greenland from beneath 268 feet of ice will stay hangared this year, but there are hopes it could fly again in 2007. This year there are problems with the availability of pilot Steve Hinton, the only person authorized to fly it, with funding for insurance to cover flights, and with transportation money needed to move it about the country. Its future is still in doubt until the estate of the late owner, J. Roy Shoffner, is settled, said museum President Bob Cardin, who was responsible for the aircraft's recovery and restoration. Shoffner's heirs could still decide to sell it. In the meantime, it sits in The P-38 Lost Squadron Museum in Middlesboro, Kentucky, greeting visitors. It flew to three locations last year, including the Sun 'n Fun Fly-In in Lakeland, Florida, and the Atlanta birthday celebration for Gen. Paul Tibbets."
HTH,
Peter
From AOPA:
"Glacier Girl to stay hangared this year
The Lockheed P-38 Lightning recovered in Greenland from beneath 268 feet of ice will stay hangared this year, but there are hopes it could fly again in 2007. This year there are problems with the availability of pilot Steve Hinton, the only person authorized to fly it, with funding for insurance to cover flights, and with transportation money needed to move it about the country. Its future is still in doubt until the estate of the late owner, J. Roy Shoffner, is settled, said museum President Bob Cardin, who was responsible for the aircraft's recovery and restoration. Shoffner's heirs could still decide to sell it. In the meantime, it sits in The P-38 Lost Squadron Museum in Middlesboro, Kentucky, greeting visitors. It flew to three locations last year, including the Sun 'n Fun Fly-In in Lakeland, Florida, and the Atlanta birthday celebration for Gen. Paul Tibbets."
HTH,
Peter
Tue Apr 04, 2006 1:01 pm
I hope I did not miss any chance to see it fly. That would be a shame! 
So how much different is a P-38J/L to fly than a P-38E (it’s an "E" right)? Does POF have anyone else fly their P-38 besides Steve H?
Tim
So how much different is a P-38J/L to fly than a P-38E (it’s an "E" right)? Does POF have anyone else fly their P-38 besides Steve H?
Tim
Tue Apr 04, 2006 1:24 pm
There are a few different pilots who fly the POF P-38. I think there is a difference in the boosting of the ailerons that may make them fly a bit differently, as well as the engine performance.TimApNy wrote:So how much different is a P-38J/L to fly than a P-38E (it’s an "E" right)? Does POF have anyone else fly their P-38 besides Steve H?
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Tue Apr 04, 2006 2:11 pm
At Oshkosh Steve Hinton said Glacier Girl actually flies nicer than the POF's P-38, mostly due to it's lighter weight.
As for pilots to fly GG, it is my understanding that the Lost Sqauadron Museum has made a policy decision that Steve Hinton will be the only pilot.
As for pilots to fly GG, it is my understanding that the Lost Sqauadron Museum has made a policy decision that Steve Hinton will be the only pilot.
Tue Apr 04, 2006 4:46 pm
1 pilot is wise, & epecially with hinton. he can get to know her quirks intimately. we all have to lean out the engines / fine tune regarding our wives / warbirds etc. i know it sounds corny, but what i'm trying to say is that 1 pilot will know how to react with knowledge & experience before the sh*t hits the fan.
one pilot
Wed Apr 05, 2006 1:06 am
Having only one pilot fly a plane is like having only one mechanic work on it, they may miss something that another pilot/mechanic wouldn't.
Re: one pilot
Wed Apr 05, 2006 2:09 am
phil65 wrote:Having only one pilot fly a plane is like having only one mechanic work on it, they may miss something that another pilot/mechanic wouldn't.
...Unless the pilot's Steve Hinton, the guy's an artiste. He flys what he does
because of what he is... a DGA..Durn GREAT Airman!
Wed Apr 05, 2006 12:04 pm
We got to meet Steve at Duxford last year. He was gracious enough to stand and talk to us for about 5 minutes. I asked him if I was too big to ride in "Porky II" (6'6", 250 lbs.). He said just come to Chino and they'd let me try it on for size.
Seemed like a "down-to-earth" type guy.
Mudge the impressed
Seemed like a "down-to-earth" type guy.
Mudge the impressed