Fred Hill Collection, 17th Recon Sq. (TRS) ...

Malo83 · **Joined:** Sat Sep 23, 2006 3:31 am **Posts:** 309

Outstanding! brings back a lot of memories of my days in the NAVY wrenching on props and jets. :drink3:

Mark Allen M · **Joined:** Fri Feb 03, 2012 1:48 pm **Posts:** 7819

These photos were taken at Ie Shima on August 19, 1945. Notice how the one soldier doesn't seem to move at all out of the way.

JohnTerrell · **Posted:** Wed Nov 08, 2017 8:57 pm

The B-25J's in these photos are all quite late production examples (B-25J-20-NC and B-25J-25-NC) - note that most, if not all, don't have the "three-piece" windscreen, and the distinctive nose wheel tires that can be seen on a few of them are also indicative of late-production B-25J's and do show up on factory-new B-25's from/around that same series of production and later. All of these Mitchells of course arrived in Theatre in bare aluminum from the factory, and it is really neat to see the one photo showing the care put into masking the stars & bars and applying areas of primer before spraying the camouflage in the field.

phil65 · **Posted:** Wed Nov 08, 2017 9:33 pm

I wonder way the side guns have been removed on the B-25 ?

Phil

TAdan · **Posted:** Thu Nov 09, 2017 8:56 am

This is one of the best collections of period photos I've ever seen. Thanks so much for sharing. :shock:

lmritger · **Posted:** Thu Nov 09, 2017 9:12 am

The last batch of photos with the Surrender Betties was taken on Ie Shima, where the 17th shared space with a number of other units including the 43rd BG "Ken's Men". Mark, I had seen a good number of these from the AFHRA site (I think) but you seem to have found even more... that's fantastic!

Lynn

airnutz · **Posted:** Thu Nov 09, 2017 9:25 am

Yep, tho Ie Shima photos are familiar it's great to see the perspective of someone else who was there. They may not be your photos Mark, but we are appreciative of your consistant habit of dragging up great stuff...many thanks again!

Warbird Kid · **Posted:** Thu Nov 09, 2017 9:30 am

Does anyone know if the escort B-25s ever landed after the Bettys and C-54?

Craig59 · **Posted:** Thu Nov 09, 2017 9:34 am

mike furline wrote:

Mark Allen M wrote:

Part 2

Looks like a retread on the nose wheel, never noticed that before.

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong but, I believe those nose wheel tires were designed and molded that way to reduce water spray into the engines when taking off on wet fields/runways.

bdk · **Joined:** Sun May 02, 2004 1:16 am **Posts:** 11324

Too bad that particular Betty wasn't saved, pretty historic.

I wish those Betty photos could be cleaned up by someone with advanced Photoshop skills. They would be even more stunning!

K5DH · **Posted:** Thu Nov 09, 2017 3:19 pm

Great color stuff! I especially like that C-54 shot, as I'm a big propliner fan.

Flat 12x2 · **Posted:** Thu Nov 09, 2017 4:09 pm

phil65 wrote:

I wonder way the side guns have been removed on the B-25 ?

Phil

I thought that, kinda neat though, the paint patina left behind & the gun blast marks.
I did think maybe they have just been removed for sevicing? the complete pod being easier to remove, but no ammo feed slot left in the fuselage?

Great post Mark, stunning photos, thanks for the time & effort to post.

Mark Allen M · **Joined:** Fri Feb 03, 2012 1:48 pm **Posts:** 7819

A bit of info here (link) as to what happened to the two Betty's.

http://www.combatairmuseum.org/ieshima/ ... hotos.html

Invader26 · **Joined:** Wed Aug 11, 2010 7:56 am **Posts:** 843

Firstly, this is an amazing collection of photos. I have, by the way, a mint cope of the 17th TRS year book printed in Australia.

Thanks for sharing Mark...

and for you Airnutz remarks like this are uncalled for. It shows your immaturity..

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They may not be your photos Mark,

airnutz · **Posted:** Thu Nov 09, 2017 9:43 pm

Invader26 wrote:

and for you Airnutz remarks like this are uncalled for. It shows your immaturity..

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They may not be your photos Mark,

My comment was referring to Marks reply to my/our first complement(s) to him on the 1st page of this thread Invader26. You need to keep up with the discussion before you choose to brace someone up young man.

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Just a reminder Invader26, if you feel you have a beef with someones comment shoot 'em a PM and give 'em a chance to explain. I believe we're all friends here. No worries...

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