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Hellcat F6F-5 parts to identify

Wed Sep 18, 2019 3:37 pm

Can anyone help to confirm that this is the headset jack socket from the jackbox on the right hand side of the cockpit ? We can't find a picture of it anywhere.

The lettering appears to be the last three letters of the word 'SOUND' or 'GROUND' or something else.

Thanks for your help.

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Re: Hellcat F6F-5 parts to identify

Thu Sep 19, 2019 10:22 am

What is the backstory on this pilot/aircraft/location?

I've tried to educate myself via google searches, to no avail.

Thanks in advance.

Re: Hellcat F6F-5 parts to identify

Thu Sep 19, 2019 7:24 pm

Looks like a receptacle to electrically ground the aircraft on the ramp.

Re: Hellcat F6F-5 parts to identify

Fri Sep 20, 2019 2:37 am

The piece of wire gives the answer. Static ground point. The only things that uses 2 or 3 wires wrapped around a core of wire, are static grounds. Notable other places to find them are on control surfaces and hinged doors and panels.

Re: Hellcat F6F-5 parts to identify

Fri Sep 20, 2019 10:52 am

StangStung wrote:What is the backstory on this pilot/aircraft/location?

I've tried to educate myself via google searches, to no avail.

Thanks in advance.


After the invasion of Southern France in August 1944 Brink was conducting an armed recco up the Rhone valley from their carrier, The Kasaan Bay, anchored off Toulon. While overflying a small village he saw what he thought to be a German motorcyclist with a sidecar and dived to strafe. It was in all probability a bike comandeered by the French resistance as by then the Germans had retreated north from the area. In those confusing days this kind of thing happened a lot.

His wingman reported that his aircraft went very low, there are reports that he even tore off the reserve tank, then it came up to about 300 ft, looking out of control, wheeled over to port and dived into the woods.

The official report notes that he was killed by ground fire. It may be true, but it seems very unlikely that it was enemy fire. It might have been a case of friendly fire but they would have had to be very lucky to down a Hellcat with small arms fire.

For the moment that's as much as we know.

Re: Hellcat F6F-5 parts to identify

Fri Sep 20, 2019 11:29 am

flypa38 wrote:Looks like a receptacle to electrically ground the aircraft on the ramp.


That's great, and it makes much more sense. Thanks. Any idea where we could find a picture ?

Re: Hellcat F6F-5 parts to identify

Fri Sep 20, 2019 11:32 am

Cvairwerks wrote:The piece of wire gives the answer. Static ground point. The only things that uses 2 or 3 wires wrapped around a core of wire, are static grounds. Notable other places to find them are on control surfaces and hinged doors and panels.


Sounds good but I'll get a photo of the back side so you can see the electrical connections. Can anyone send a picutre of the static grounding of a hellcat ?

Re: Hellcat F6F-5 parts to identify

Sat Sep 21, 2019 1:53 am

Ian03 wrote:
Cvairwerks wrote:The piece of wire gives the answer. Static ground point. The only things that uses 2 or 3 wires wrapped around a core of wire, are static grounds. Notable other places to find them are on control surfaces and hinged doors and panels.


Sounds good but I'll get a photo of the back side so you can see the electrical connections. Can anyone send a picutre of the static grounding of a hellcat ?


Here is a picture of the back of the connector. Does this confirm the static gounding point and give a clue as to it's location on the aircraft ?

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Re: Hellcat F6F-5 parts to identify

Sat Sep 21, 2019 6:16 am

Wash off all the dirt and you can verify that all three of the small eyelet terminals have continuity with the flex tab and the body. The only thing that uses this type configuration is a static ground point. The labeling on the other side would be consistent with a ground point too.

The pilot's headset would have plugged into a J-22A jack box on the right side of the cockpit. The J-22A would give the pilot a mix of all 5 receivers installed in the aircraft.

Re: Hellcat F6F-5 parts to identify

Sat Sep 21, 2019 6:30 am

Cvairwerks wrote:Wash off all the dirt and you can verify that all three of the small eyelet terminals have continuity with the flex tab and the body. The only thing that uses this type configuration is a static ground point. The labeling on the other side would be consistent with a ground point too.

The pilot's headset would have plugged into a J-22A jack box on the right side of the cockpit. The J-22A would give the pilot a mix of all 5 receivers installed in the aircraft.


Thanks, that all makes perfect sense but where was this grounding point on the aircraft ?

Re: Hellcat F6F-5 parts to identify

Sat Sep 21, 2019 2:02 pm

Definitely a static grounding receptacle. I have the same units all over the F7U.

Re: Hellcat F6F-5 parts to identify

Sat Sep 21, 2019 2:36 pm

Ian03 wrote:Thanks, that all makes perfect sense but where was this grounding point on the aircraft ?


Ian: No idea on the Hellcat. One thing that might help, is that it appears to be mounted on a piece of fiberglass or some sort of composite.

Re: Hellcat F6F-5 parts to identify

Mon Sep 23, 2019 4:41 am

Cvairwerks wrote:
Ian03 wrote:Thanks, that all makes perfect sense but where was this grounding point on the aircraft ?


Ian: No idea on the Hellcat. One thing that might help, is that it appears to be mounted on a piece of fiberglass or some sort of composite.


Maybe somewhere here ? Behind this cover ?

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Re: Hellcat F6F-5 parts to identify

Mon Sep 23, 2019 4:45 am

Generally, a grounding point would be installed near a fuel filling cap so that you can easily connect the grounding wire before commencing fuelling. I have no idea about the Hellcat's location for that though.

Re: Hellcat F6F-5 parts to identify

Mon Sep 23, 2019 8:20 am

Archer wrote:Generally, a grounding point would be installed near a fuel filling cap so that you can easily connect the grounding wire before commencing fuelling. I have no idea about the Hellcat's location for that though.


Thanks Archer, we're on the case :-)
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