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Wed Nov 10, 2021 11:05 am
From the Dakota Territory Air Museum:
We have a P-40 static display project that we are looking to take offers on. If you are interested and would like further details or more photos of the airplane, please message the museum on Facebook, email the museum at
airmuseum@minot.com, or give us a call at 701-852-8500 and please leave a message if no one is there to answer.
https://www.facebook.com/DTAMMinotND
Wed Nov 10, 2021 7:08 pm
Is this the old Granger Taylor airframe?
If so, interesting but sad tale involving this aircraft and its previous owner.
T J
Wed Nov 10, 2021 8:21 pm
I don't think it's the Granger Taylor plane, unless it was incorporated into this one - The Taylor plane had a real P-40 lower cowl and this one's cowl looks like it's from an Avro York or Lancaster? More about the Taylor plane here:
https://web.archive.org/web/20110723093 ... taylor.htm
Wed Nov 10, 2021 9:09 pm
Whatever the price of scrap aluminum should determine the selling price!
Wed Nov 10, 2021 9:10 pm
Whatever the price of scrap aluminum should determine the selling price!
Thu Nov 11, 2021 10:42 am
Thu Nov 11, 2021 10:49 am
Its changed a bit over the years. It started out built by Granger Taylor, and later acquired by Bob Diemert. Much of the good and true P-40 parts, such as the wings, were incorporated into Ron Fagen's P-40E AK753
Shirley II, which was later re-restored, far more authentically, and now painted in a North African theatre desert scheme at Fagen Fighters WWII Museum.
Last edited by
JohnTerrell on Sat Nov 13, 2021 1:00 pm, edited 2 times in total.
Thu Nov 11, 2021 3:37 pm
Based on the above information it sounds like it should go back to Bob's at Friendship Field. Be interesting where it ends up.
Thu Nov 11, 2021 9:37 pm
How about "Pawn Stars"!! LOL
Fri Nov 12, 2021 12:59 am
Come on guys, it's a non-flying replica, cut it some slack.
Some organizations that would like a WWII fighter for display can't afford the real thing.
So for them, it's better than nothing.
Fri Nov 12, 2021 9:35 pm
JohnTerrell wrote:Its changed a bit over the years. It started out built by Granger Taylor, and later acquired by Bob Diemert. Much of the good and true P-40 parts, such as the wings, were incorporated into Ron Fagen's P-40E AK753 Shirley II, which was later re-restored, far more authentically, and now painted in a North African theatre desert scheme at Fagem Fighters WWII Museum.
Also, when "Shirley II" was restored as the "Checkertail" it received new wings. They are no longer the junk wings that came from the Taylor/Diemert plane.
Brandon
Fri Nov 12, 2021 10:01 pm
JohnB wrote:Come on guys, it's a non-flying replica, cut it some slack.
I didn't realise that, I've always assumed he restored it to fly.
Fri Nov 12, 2021 11:54 pm
Zac Yates wrote:JohnB wrote:Come on guys, it's a non-flying replica, cut it some slack.
I didn't realise that, I've always assumed he restored it to fly.
Not with the center section visible in the photo above.
Sat Nov 13, 2021 8:25 pm
That's a later addition, when initially rebuilt it stood on its own legs:
P-40F @ Friendship Field, Carman, Manitoba by
Blake Smith, on Flickr
P-40 F, Bob Diemert, Carman, Manitoba by
Blake Smith, on Flickr
Bob Diemert in P-40F by
Blake Smith, on Flickr
It's amazing how well the paint has lasted!
Sun Nov 14, 2021 4:44 pm
Zac Yates wrote:JohnB wrote:Come on guys, it's a non-flying replica, cut it some slack.
I didn't realise that, I've always assumed he restored it to fly.
I think it got pranged on either it's test flight or it's delivery flight to the US.
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