Ju87 Stuka Info Wanted
Wed Jun 14, 2006 6:26 am
Are there any airworthy Ju87's. How many are there known to exist? Are there any under restoration? In the US?
David
David
Wed Jun 14, 2006 7:20 am
I have never heard of any airworthy, or any airworthy restorations. Just a very small handful of static examples.
I think there may be a replica running around. I seem to remember seeing a pic of one.
I think there may be a replica running around. I seem to remember seeing a pic of one.
Wed Jun 14, 2006 8:09 am
Re: Ju87 Stuka Info Wanted
Wed Jun 14, 2006 8:10 am
Sabremech wrote:Are there any airworthy Ju87's. How many are there known to exist? Are there any under restoration? In the US?
David
Take a look at this website. www.rlmaviation.co.uk
Dennis
Wed Jun 14, 2006 8:42 am
http://www.preservedaxisaircraft.com/
It looks like there is about 3-4 complete on display along with a several others that are displayed in wrecked form. FHC has one so maybe one day we will see a flyer.
It looks like there is about 3-4 complete on display along with a several others that are displayed in wrecked form. FHC has one so maybe one day we will see a flyer.
buried Stuka?
Wed Jun 14, 2006 11:42 am
Wasn't there a story of one buried under the foundation of a new building being put up at the University of Chicago in the 60's?
I'm thinking back to a small Air Classics blurb in an early 70's Air Classics Warbird Report maybe???
I'm thinking back to a small Air Classics blurb in an early 70's Air Classics Warbird Report maybe???
Wed Jun 14, 2006 12:02 pm
Two complete ones on display, RAF Museum at Hendon, and Chicago Museum of Science and Industry.
The rest are all recovered wrecks.
The rest are all recovered wrecks.
Wed Jun 14, 2006 12:26 pm
Sabremech--
There's an excellent survey of surviving Stukas, and major components thereof, in Classic Wings Issue #44 (Vol 11 #1).
The last time there was the prospect of a Ju87 flying seems to have been when thought was given to refurbishing what is now the RAFM Battle of Britain Hall Ju87D for flight for the film "Battle Of Britain" in the late 60s. A couple scaled replicas have been built and flown in the years since but that's been all...
S.
There's an excellent survey of surviving Stukas, and major components thereof, in Classic Wings Issue #44 (Vol 11 #1).
The last time there was the prospect of a Ju87 flying seems to have been when thought was given to refurbishing what is now the RAFM Battle of Britain Hall Ju87D for flight for the film "Battle Of Britain" in the late 60s. A couple scaled replicas have been built and flown in the years since but that's been all...
S.
Flying JU-87
Wed Jun 14, 2006 5:36 pm
So in reading RLM's website, we'll finally have a flying Stuka in 3-4years?
That's great news! In checking the Preserved Axis Aircraft site there's a
report of Ju-87 parts..center section, wing and cowling bits being reportedly
sold to someone in England from stocks at the Yugoslav Aero Museum, Belgrade.
No idea whether the parts have left the country, nor which project purchased them.
That's great news! In checking the Preserved Axis Aircraft site there's a
report of Ju-87 parts..center section, wing and cowling bits being reportedly
sold to someone in England from stocks at the Yugoslav Aero Museum, Belgrade.
No idea whether the parts have left the country, nor which project purchased them.
Wed Jun 14, 2006 6:24 pm
What baffles me in all this is, why this Warbird has taken a back seat to every thing else. Were the survivors destroyed after the war or were there simply not that many that survived? I have seen the one in Chicago and the one in Great Britain. Awesome looking machine. The one on the RLM site didn't show much. Am I missing something there?
David
David
Wed Jun 14, 2006 6:40 pm
sabremech
I have long had an interest in the type and this question comes up all the time.
Some possible reasons why there are few ju87s left
1) Not that many survived
2) By the wars end the dive bombing technique was largely outmoded so not much use for them
3) Spares were few and far between and they would have been hard to obtain.
4) The Stuka was the focal point of hatred against the Nazi Regime and as such was destroyed as a symbol
5) Not such a great aircraft in any case - so why bother.
The Stuka is not Robinson Crusoe in this regard - most divebombers only survive in small quantities - eg Vultee vengance is even rarer
Regards
John P
I have long had an interest in the type and this question comes up all the time.
Some possible reasons why there are few ju87s left
1) Not that many survived
2) By the wars end the dive bombing technique was largely outmoded so not much use for them
3) Spares were few and far between and they would have been hard to obtain.
4) The Stuka was the focal point of hatred against the Nazi Regime and as such was destroyed as a symbol
5) Not such a great aircraft in any case - so why bother.
The Stuka is not Robinson Crusoe in this regard - most divebombers only survive in small quantities - eg Vultee vengance is even rarer
Regards
John P
Wed Jun 14, 2006 8:44 pm
I remember hearing on this board of a complete one in a reservoir but local officals won't let it be recovered because if disturbed it may contaminate the drinking water.
Wed Jun 14, 2006 9:35 pm
With the rarity of this plane, wouldn't it seem someone would be interested in recreating them from plans? Flug Werk for instance?
I understand the huge project this would be, but feel there is a huge void with so many of these being produced and none flying.
I'm probably not saying anything that hasn't already been said or felt, but am trying to see what others feel and know about this.
David
I understand the huge project this would be, but feel there is a huge void with so many of these being produced and none flying.
I'm probably not saying anything that hasn't already been said or felt, but am trying to see what others feel and know about this.
David
Thu Jun 15, 2006 1:30 am
There are some reasonable scale replicas, but there are no known surviving manufacturing drawings, so unless one can be completely taken apart for study,I would doubt an accurate reproduction can be built.
There are more around yet to be recovered, any news that has been cleared for print will appear in future editions of Classic Wings, so stay tuned.
Dave
There are more around yet to be recovered, any news that has been cleared for print will appear in future editions of Classic Wings, so stay tuned.
Dave
Thu Jun 15, 2006 3:37 am
Rob S wrote:I remember hearing on this board of a complete one in a reservoir but local officals won't let it be recovered because if disturbed it may contaminate the drinking water.
Typical politicians..."Let's not do this on my watch". Let it rot from the outside in.
Let someone in 2035 worry about the contaminant release...sheesh!
