OSH - Airventure 2006

cg51 · **Posted:** Wed Jul 26, 2006 3:10 pm

Some pics from tuesday

bdk · **Joined:** Sun May 02, 2004 1:16 am **Posts:** 11324

http://www.airventure.org/2006/wedjuly26/lancaster.html

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Lancaster bomber arrives today

One of the world’s only two flying Lancaster bombers is slated to arrive today, its first visit by the British/Canadian bomber to EAA AirVenture in more than a decade. The Lancaster, C-GVRA, owned and operated by the Canadian Warplane Heritage Museum (CWH), was one of the 422 Mk X models built at Victory Aircraft in Canada between 1943 and 1945. It saw service with the No. 107 Rescue Unit at Torbay, Newfoundland, as a maritime patrol/search and rescue aircraft until retired by the Royal Canadian Air Force (RCAF) in 1964.

Lancasters are powered by four Rolls-Royce or Packard-built Merlin engines and was the only aircraft capable of carrying the 22,000-pound Grand Slam bomb.

Between 1942 and VE Day (May 8, 1945), Lancasters participated in 156,000 sorties and delivered two-thirds of Bomber Command’s total bomb weight. The Lancaster won a place for itself in history with the daring and precise bombing raids on the Mohne and Eder dams in May 1943 and with the sinking of the German battleship Tirpitz, in a well-defended Norwegian fjord. Of the 7,366 Lancasters built during World War II, only two are still flying today.

The CWH Lancaster was acquired from the Goderich Legion in 1977, with assistance from the Sully Foundation. Following a lengthy restoration, it flew again on September 24, 1988. The aircraft is painted in the wartime RCAF markings of the 419 Squadron, unit code VR-A aircraft in which P/O Andrew Mynarski of Winnipeg was posthumously awarded the Victoria Cross for attempting to rescue the trapped rear gunner from his blazing turret.

Steve T · **Posted:** Wed Jul 26, 2006 7:30 pm

Hi all--

So cool to hear the Lanc will be at OSH. One small quibble though with the press release info: C-GVRA first flew following restoration on a cloudy Sunday, September 11, 1988, not the 24th. (The 24th, a gorgeous sunny Saturday, was the PUBLIC flying debut of the Lanc. They expected a couple thousand might show up; in fact ten times that number did, turning the roads around the Hope into an impromptu parking lot/grandstand with many visitors unable to access the airport! I have always viewed that marvelous day as the apogee of CWH; nothing since has matched it and I can't think anything ever will. And I did arrive early enough to get in: had worked there; about two visitors in three would ask me when the Lanc was to fly...a huge turnout was an absolute cinch.)

S.

Dan K · **Posted:** Wed Jul 26, 2006 8:10 pm

In response to Randy Haskin's question: Yep, the Buckeye is on the lawn next to 9-27 just after landing.

If you're familiar with landing on 27 during Airventure, you can either turn right onto taxiway or left on to the grass. I have no idea if the pilot was given the choice, but coming back to the ramp on the lawn usually takes a couple of minutes. Turning right means an extended drive to get back to the ramp...if you're lucky only 10-15 minutes.

marine air · **Posted:** Thu Jul 27, 2006 12:34 pm

I would have loved to see the expression on Randy's face when he saw that pic of the T-2 on the grass! That's a major no-no in the real military because of the possibility of FOD ingestion. Also the T-2's tires and wheels probably aren't not designed for off hard surface operation. The A-4's main tire pressure is 310 psi. for example

Randy Haskin · **Posted:** Thu Jul 27, 2006 1:25 pm

marine air wrote:

I would have loved to see the expression on Randy's face when he saw that pic of the T-2 on the grass! That's a major no-no in the real military because of the possibility of FOD ingestion. Also the T-2's tires and wheels probably aren't not designed for off hard surface operation. The A-4's main tire pressure is 310 psi. for example

You've got that right! My jaw is still slack looking at that photo.

The procedure for departing a prepared surface (e.g. leaving the pavement) is "throttles - off", such that you don't FOD out the motors.

That is a fact that is beat into us until we're senseless from day one of pilot training. I am very surprised that the T-2 pilot did that.

RickH · **Posted:** Thu Jul 27, 2006 3:17 pm

Rich Sugden must have plenty of J-85s at home. I can't believe they took that kind of chance either, Randy.

Randy Haskin · **Posted:** Fri Jul 28, 2006 4:45 am

RickH wrote:

Rich Sugden must have plenty of J-85s at home. I can't believe they took that kind of chance either, Randy.

That's how you guys do it at Collings, right? Flying the F-4 and A-4 off the grass in Stow?

RickH · **Posted:** Fri Jul 28, 2006 8:54 am

Let me think,...2700 ft grass + F-4,....uh NO !!! :shock:

Pat Carry · **Posted:** Fri Jul 28, 2006 9:26 am

What is the serial # for the P-51 "Red Dog"

Sabremech · **Posted:** Fri Jul 28, 2006 9:44 am

The T2 at Oshkosh is owned by the Warbird Heritage Foundation of Waukegan, Il. Rich sugden did not bring his Buckeye this year. We were not very pleased that we had to go through the grass as we were told by the controllers. Thankfully we incurred no FOD for our off-road taxi.
David
WHF Maint

RickH · **Posted:** Fri Jul 28, 2006 10:18 am

Sorry for the misidentification, David. Hope you gave the controllers a little education in a loud tone of voice on how to handle a jet. I wonder if they would have all pitched in to pay for a new engine if one hadded FODded out ? I bet not !

k5083 · **Posted:** Fri Jul 28, 2006 10:29 am

I have heard Skyraider drivers conduct lengthy arguments with OSH controllers over this issue. Spad pilots avoid turf to prevent PHD (Pilot Head Damage when the airplane flips over). After many repetitions of "Negative on the grass, tower" and some delay and rerouting, the ADs are allowed to taxi back on the hard surface with the pilots' heads experiencing dull pain but otherwise undamaged. So stand your ground.

August

Randy Haskin · **Posted:** Fri Jul 28, 2006 1:51 pm

Sabremech wrote:

we had to go through the grass as we were told by the controllers.

No, no, no, no, no.

The ground controller is not the final say in the operation of the aircraft. The pilot is.

Sabremech · **Posted:** Fri Jul 28, 2006 2:55 pm

Randy,
Your right on the pilot having the final say. I can assure no damage was done as I inspected the intakes.
We appreciate the concern for the airplane and can take warranted criticism as well, but let's take it easy on these pilots. A lot is going on at Oshkosh and these guys bring this equipment in for all of us to enjoy.
Thank you,
David

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