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Wed Sep 06, 2006 12:40 pm
When Mr Reilly closed up shop in Florida did he still have a PB4Y fuselage? If so where is it now?
Wed Sep 06, 2006 2:06 pm
Pat,
It has been gone for years.
I asked Mr. Reilly about it one time and all he said was he had traded it.
Below is a picture I took of it from about 1990.
Bill
Wed Sep 06, 2006 2:58 pm
I thought that this ended up in the Ed Kaleeta recreaction/restoration of the Hill AFB Museum's B-24, but I may be mistaken.
Cheers,
Richard
Wed Sep 06, 2006 3:41 pm
I'm not that knowledgeable on B-24's and Pb4ys. I have a dumb question for someone to answer; Would it be possible for a collector with deep pockets to negotiate with the Libyan govt. to purchase the Lady Be Good, and then rebuild it using the junk offered by Kaleta on Barnstormers, and maybe more spares available from the recent liquidation of H & P ?
Didn't the U. S. and other governments relax the embargo on Libya last year? Are there enough partial pieces to somehow get one more B-24 type back in the air?
Regards,
Wed Sep 06, 2006 3:47 pm
With deep enough pockets anything is possible!!! I would not however like to see Lady Be Good become part of a B-24 rebuild. It should go to a museum here in the US just the way it is as a memorial to the crew. The most fitting place would be the NMUSAF in Dayton where some parts of L.B.G. are already on display.
Wed Sep 06, 2006 3:50 pm
marine air wrote:I'm not that knowledgeable on B-24's and Pb4ys. I have a dumb question for someone to answer; Would it be possible for a collector with deep pockets to negotiate with the Libyan govt. to purchase the Lady Be Good, and then rebuild it using the junk offered by Kaleta on Barnstormers, and maybe more spares available from the recent liquidation of H & P ?
Didn't the U. S. and other governments relax the embargo on Libya last year? Are there enough partial pieces to somehow get one more B-24 type back in the air?
Regards,
LBG is too far "dismantled" due to looters and the museum of Tobruk to be of any use to anyone I would think for a restoration to flying. And besides I think LBG has too much sentimental value to be simply cobbled into another frankenstein restoration and lose her identity. From my understanding Gary Larkins is in negotiations with the museum of Tobruk to obtain the remains of LBG.
Shay
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Semper Fortis
Wed Sep 06, 2006 3:58 pm
LBG has a very nice web site dedicated to its history and the crew
http://www.ladybegood.com/
As others have already said ~ the wreckage should be displayed in a setting that would tell of both the aiplane and its crews fate and the courage and sacrifice that is often made away from the battlefront.
Has any museum got the space and the nerve to display airframe remains in such a setting ?
Hmm ~ Good question !
Wed Sep 06, 2006 5:51 pm
I just want to see it recovered and on display somewhere other than in Libya!
Wed Sep 06, 2006 6:23 pm
The NMUSAF would probably be in the best position to display it in a recreated desert setting but thats probably only a dream.....
Thu Sep 07, 2006 3:52 am
I think, last the PB4Y was in aero traders storage site.
Thu Sep 07, 2006 9:49 am
Tom's -4Y has been reincarnated into a B-24 D by Ed Kaleta and crew at KalAero in San Diego. It's now on display at Hill AFB, Utah, as part of their growing warbird collection. It's come a long way from a hermit's home in the swamplands of Florida. We can thank Jay Wisler for having the foresight to save this one....
Thu Sep 07, 2006 4:59 pm
Pooner wrote:Tom's -4Y has been reincarnated into a B-24 D by Ed Kaleta and crew at KalAero in San Diego. It's now on display at Hill AFB, Utah, as part of their growing warbird collection. It's come a long way from a hermit's home in the swamplands of Florida. We can thank Jay Wisler for having the foresight to save this one....
Hey Rob, good to finally see ya on WIX bud! Love the name "Pooner," man that really suits ya
Thu Sep 07, 2006 5:07 pm
I thought the Hill B-24D was pulled out of Alaska. Did they merge the two airframes together to get the Hill Museum's display aircraft?
Here is the information page from their website, it doesn't mention anything about the PB4Y:
http://www.hill.af.mil/museum/photos/wwii/b-24.htm
I'm a big fan of the B-24D/PB4Y but have limited knowledge on the survivors - will defer to you guys but thought I recalled reading an article on the Hill team going up to Alaska to get their plane.
Thu Sep 07, 2006 7:09 pm
Glyn wrote:I thought the Hill B-24D was pulled out of Alaska. Did they merge the two airframes together to get the Hill Museum's display aircraft?
Here is the information page from their website, it doesn't mention anything about the PB4Y:
http://www.hill.af.mil/museum/photos/wwii/b-24.htmI'm a big fan of the B-24D/PB4Y but have limited knowledge on the survivors - will defer to you guys but thought I recalled reading an article on the Hill team going up to Alaska to get their plane.
I'd like to know a bit more on this also, I did not know about the PB4Y contection to the B-24D out of Alaska.
Tim
Thu Sep 07, 2006 7:19 pm
I talked briefly with Kaleeta about the parts he is advertising on behalf of a friend... he said that what he had, and what the Hill B-24 was made of, was a composite of a bunch of different wrecks and parts stashes that he had collected over a period of years from a variety of locations. So, I guess that would make the Hill bird a real jigsaw puzzle. Gave me more respect for Kaleeta and his team.
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