most offensively code named warbird??
Wed Nov 15, 2006 4:10 pm
i don't give a hoot about anybody's sexual preference, etc, what ever floats your boat!!! but i find it interesting that nato or the usaf code named the mig 15 with the monniker "fagot" in the 1950's!!! that would never happen today, regardless of who is the enemy!!!
Last edited by tom d. friedman on Wed Nov 15, 2006 5:29 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Wed Nov 15, 2006 4:18 pm
Tom;
I did not even have to read your post and knew exactly what airplane you were talking about! It is a crappy code name.
Scott.....
I did not even have to read your post and knew exactly what airplane you were talking about! It is a crappy code name.
Scott.....
Wed Nov 15, 2006 4:28 pm
Here's the dictionary definition of the word "Fagot". It doesn't appear to have anything to do with the derogatory term.
fag·ot also fag·got (fgt)
n.
1. A bundle of twigs, sticks, or branches bound together.
2. A bundle of pieces of iron or steel to be welded or hammered into bars.
tr.v. fag·ot·ed also fag·got·ed, fag·ot·ing also fag·got·ing, fag·ots also fag·gots
1. To bind into a fagot; bundle.
2. To decorate with fagoting.
I'm not sure the derogatory term, spelled faggot, was even thought about when the MiG-15 was named.
Walt
fag·ot also fag·got (fgt)
n.
1. A bundle of twigs, sticks, or branches bound together.
2. A bundle of pieces of iron or steel to be welded or hammered into bars.
tr.v. fag·ot·ed also fag·got·ed, fag·ot·ing also fag·got·ing, fag·ots also fag·gots
1. To bind into a fagot; bundle.
2. To decorate with fagoting.
I'm not sure the derogatory term, spelled faggot, was even thought about when the MiG-15 was named.
Walt
Wed Nov 15, 2006 4:34 pm
What about the Mig 21?? its not really offensive..but come on..FISHBED??? Ewww 
Wed Nov 15, 2006 5:28 pm
rare bear thanks for the definition. but unfortunately you must admit the sound of the derogatory version is the connotation most people think of. for that matter........what were the original code namers thinking of???
Wed Nov 15, 2006 5:42 pm
T-6 Texan II,
Who ever heard of a Texan born in Kansas ? and it is not even built by the same company as the original.
Who ever heard of a Texan born in Kansas ? and it is not even built by the same company as the original.
Wed Nov 15, 2006 5:50 pm
Matt Gunsch wrote:T-6 Texan II,
Who ever heard of a Texan born in Kansas ? and it is not even built by the same company as the original.
Its just a really good name!!!!
Wed Nov 15, 2006 6:04 pm
Kates and Sallys are pretty feminine for war machines.
Wed Nov 15, 2006 6:24 pm
Here in Blighty "Faggots" is also a meat dish made with liver... never tried it, don't believe I ever will...
bad code names
Wed Nov 15, 2006 7:59 pm
There was a russian bomber in the cold war that the Russians got all upset about the name, cant remember which one though. Hacker might know.
They named it the Texan II because it was the first trainer since the real McCoy that was used by the Air Force and the Navy.
Matt Gunsch wrote:
T-6 Texan II,
Who ever heard of a Texan born in Kansas ? and it is not even built by the same company as the original.
Its just a really good name!!!!
They named it the Texan II because it was the first trainer since the real McCoy that was used by the Air Force and the Navy.
Re: bad code names
Wed Nov 15, 2006 8:10 pm
Trey Carroll wrote:There was a russian bomber in the cold war that the Russians got all upset about the name, cant remember which one though. Hacker might know.Matt Gunsch wrote:
T-6 Texan II,
Who ever heard of a Texan born in Kansas ? and it is not even built by the same company as the original.
Its just a really good name!!!!
They named it the Texan II because it was the first trainer since the real McCoy that was used by the Air Force and the Navy.
How could it be a real trainer, it has a training wheel under the nose. real pilots fly taildraggers
Re: bad code names
Wed Nov 15, 2006 9:12 pm
T-6 Texan II,
Who ever heard of a Texan born in Kansas ? and it is not even built by the same company as the original.
They named it the Texan II because it was the first trainer since the real McCoy that was used by the Air Force and the Navy.
Uh, are we forgetting the T-28 and T-34?
Trainer
Wed Nov 15, 2006 9:21 pm
T-34 is a fun all around sport airplane, but it is not a good trainer for the more powerful and less forgiving T-6, P-51 etc. It is probably the easiest airplane to land of anything I've flow and would be my plane of choice in a forced landing except maybe a Cub.
Bad Names
Wed Nov 15, 2006 10:06 pm
Uh, are we forgetting the T-28 and T-34?
No, those I left out.
Real pilots fly taildraggers is right
Wed Nov 15, 2006 10:39 pm
Check out this link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO_reporting_name
quote: "Many of the names were not particularly flattering, though that is a matter of opinion. For many there was no real overall meaning, others hinted at clever double meanings, and some others have become memorable and feared names. Literally hundreds of different names had to be thought up and chosen, so the names covered a wide variety of subjects. On rare occasions, such as that of the Fulcrum and Bear, NATO codenames were found flattering (or at least appropriate) and ended up being used as popular names within Russia."
HTH
Pete
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO_reporting_name
quote: "Many of the names were not particularly flattering, though that is a matter of opinion. For many there was no real overall meaning, others hinted at clever double meanings, and some others have become memorable and feared names. Literally hundreds of different names had to be thought up and chosen, so the names covered a wide variety of subjects. On rare occasions, such as that of the Fulcrum and Bear, NATO codenames were found flattering (or at least appropriate) and ended up being used as popular names within Russia."
HTH
Pete