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Wed Dec 06, 2006 1:58 pm
T33 Driver - Yeah I know what you mean.
Our T-33 has a Collins fully coupled autopilot and FD, nice avionics stack, HUD checklist, new paint and leather interior.
Best part of this T-33 is it has a pre-moratorium airworthiness!
Wed Dec 06, 2006 3:11 pm
Our T-33 has a Collins fully coupled autopilot and FD, nice avionics stack, HUD checklist, new paint and leather interior.
Best part of this T-33 is it has a pre-moratorium airworthiness![/quote]
King,
That pre-moratorium airworthiness is a valuable selling point. Wow, that's a "Gucci" cockpit--nice cross country setup. All it needs is an iPod connection to the interphone and wireless internet!
Wed Dec 06, 2006 4:21 pm
Can someone keep me posted on the fate of 610 as it has special meaning to us. Also did the Black Tbirds get sold?
Wed Dec 06, 2006 5:22 pm
133656 is one of my favs from the "All Black" Tbirds..have quite a few pictures of her in service..
Wed Dec 06, 2006 9:56 pm
peter wrote:Can someone keep me posted on the fate of 610 as it has special meaning to us. Also did the Black Tbirds get sold?
Peter,
A friend of mine in Massachusetts bought 610 and it will be flown regularly, in good hands and well maintained. Right now he's waiting for final gov't importation approvals on both sides of the border before the transaction is executed so the airplanes won't be flown out for a few months. He also bought 564 and 452. More information is forthcoming--it's early in the process I'll be flying 599 to Waukesha WI for a friend of mine who bought it. I hope this helps.
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Wed Dec 06, 2006 10:35 pm
Thanks very much do you have pics of the other ones or are they all lined up together in that one pic? Also would it be possible to see a video clip of 610 starting up and takiing off when she leaves?
Wed Dec 06, 2006 11:38 pm
Here are a handful of pictures from 2001 and 2002, when a number of the T-Birds in Mountain View were delivered.
And a few aerials of PZ3 showing the line up on the ramp, for anyone who hasn't had the pleasure.
The last few, including the colour bird for T-33 retirement from AETE (452) were delieverd more recently.
http://www.airforce.forces.gc.ca/equip/ ... -0101a.jpg
Does anyone know if this particular one has been purchased, and if so any idea if it'll hand on to its unique (and recent) paint job? [/url]
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Edward Soye on Wed Dec 06, 2006 11:47 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Wed Dec 06, 2006 11:42 pm
A question I have for the T-Bird owners out there. When these are operated in the civilian world are the seats kept active?
Or does it depend on the particular operator?
Wed Dec 06, 2006 11:53 pm
Can anyone share who the Massachusetts owner is? I have some local airshows that may be interested if he is going to operate it locally. Thanks!
Thu Dec 07, 2006 8:18 am
Tulio, where did all the Mexican T-Birds go? What replaced them? They replaced the T-28s and were still in use in the early 90s the last time I was down there.
Thu Dec 07, 2006 8:24 am
There was an article a while back that was done on the Montana ANG T-33s. They were one owner aircraft and the Montana pilots ferried them down to hand them over to Mexico. They were the last USAF T-Birds. Think this happened about 1994. They were immaculate.
Thu Dec 07, 2006 8:29 am
Edward Soye wrote:A question I have for the T-Bird owners out there. When these are operated in the civilian world are the seats kept active?
Or does it depend on the particular operator?
Our seats are hot and maintained. There is not other way out of the aircraft that I know of.
Thu Dec 07, 2006 9:51 am
The angles taxiway also may have out Tutor 114177 sitting there too! She was removed be my team last year.
Any other pics? Looks cool seeing the T33 land there. I was told that the tutors were flowin into trenton then trucked to mountainview? Does this mean the tbirds can fly out of mountainview then?
Thu Dec 07, 2006 10:24 am
Peter,
Filming T-Bird departures out of Mountainview is a great idea. I'll work on that one and let you know what I come up with.
Regarding ejection seats, mine are disarmed. There's a compelling case for keeping them armed or not, but that's a discussion over a case of beer, or a 12 pack anyway.
I'm in regular contact with the MA owner who'll be operating T-33s 452, 564, and 610 out of Pease Fld, NH (KPSM). Right now he's up to his eyeballs in alligators with gov't paperwork/approvals, importation, ferry flight maintenance, spares aquisition, and coordination with Mountainview personnel. I'll ask him if he's interested in entertaining inquiries. He's a friendly guy, passionate about warbirds and really excited about bringing the T-33s to Pease Fld. We're already talking/dreaming about a three ship T-33 arrival to Oshkosh!
As far as flying jets out of Mountainview, the folks in charge up there were saying for a while they wouldn't allow any more airplanes to be flown out due to concern over deteriorating runway conditions. They've softened on that stance and are now indicating they will allow T-33s to be flown out. The runway is pretty worn, but last I heard, it's good enough. I got the definite sense the Canadian Forces are anxious to get those airplanes out of there as soon as possible. If anyone is interested in one of the remaining airplanes to fly or as a static display, I suggest you get in touch with Lancaster Aviation soon. John Cossar is handling the T-33 sale fof them and he'll be out of his office until December 20th.
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