Accident query
Tue Dec 12, 2006 3:55 pm
Hello all,
Can someone out there tell me when and where the accident in this video clip took place. Pardon my ignorance on this one. I'll attach the url to this message.
http://www.micom.net/oops/ its in the second column from the right, under p-38 crash.
Thanks.
Can someone out there tell me when and where the accident in this video clip took place. Pardon my ignorance on this one. I'll attach the url to this message.
http://www.micom.net/oops/ its in the second column from the right, under p-38 crash.
Thanks.
Tue Dec 12, 2006 4:17 pm
It happened just over 10 years ago at Duxford, Cambs. UK with the very sad loss of the chief pilot of the Fighter Collection 'Hoof' Proudfoot.
VBR
Jason
VBR
Jason
Tue Dec 12, 2006 5:22 pm
Tue Dec 12, 2006 5:59 pm
Tue Dec 12, 2006 6:50 pm
krlang wrote:Heres another great one from that page!
Another great one? Rather strange terminology.
I fail to see what's 'great' about watching someone die in a flying accident. Especially someone I knew very well.
Come to think of it, I wouldn't describe the incident in the photo that you refer to (a blazing, in-flight F-4 with the crew still on board) as anything particularly 'great' either.
Wed Dec 13, 2006 10:02 am
Who built up the AC that crashed in 1996. I supplied two tires for a P-38 that went across the pond about 1991-92. Would this be the same aircraft?
Wed Dec 13, 2006 11:05 am
Mike, while I agree with the first part of your post, you shouldn't worry about the F-4 crew in the photo refernced by KR. The aircraft is NOT on fire. They are experincing a J-79 compressor stall. Noisy and it WILL get your attention but not a fatal occurrence!
Wed Dec 13, 2006 11:14 am
Rick, what would cause a compressor stall like that in what appears to be straight and level flight? Sorry for such a dumb question, but that thing has the wrong kind of round engines for me. 
Gary
Gary
Wed Dec 13, 2006 11:58 am
Versatile, the work was done by Fighter Rebuilders.
We also had another P-38 in the UK around that time (maybe a bit earlier), N505MH which I think is with Evergreen now.
We also had another P-38 in the UK around that time (maybe a bit earlier), N505MH which I think is with Evergreen now.
Wed Dec 13, 2006 12:23 pm
Gary, it could be many things. A misrigged engine, damage to a compressor section, throttle movement too quick for a misrigged fuel controller, even atmospheric conditions.
There are guys out there with more experience than I who could better explain it. But the picture clearly depicts a compressor stall.
There are guys out there with more experience than I who could better explain it. But the picture clearly depicts a compressor stall.
Wed Dec 13, 2006 12:44 pm
Geez! And they say radial engines are complicated. 
Gary
Gary
Wed Dec 13, 2006 1:06 pm
The very fact that a jet engine works with the reliability that they do is amazing. The suck,squeeze,bang, and blow is very finely balanced in a jet engine.
Don't mean to hijack the original thread but since you asked , Gary,
I've sent an email to a former GE J-79 specialist ( tech rep) and asked him to weigh in.
Don't mean to hijack the original thread but since you asked , Gary,
I've sent an email to a former GE J-79 specialist ( tech rep) and asked him to weigh in.
Wed Dec 13, 2006 2:02 pm
RickH wrote:The suck,squeeze,bang, and blow is very finely balanced in a jet engine.
I know I'm not the only one who wants to make an ex-girlfriend joke at that comment......
Don't mean to hijack the original thread but since you asked , Gary,
I've sent an email to a former GE J-79 specialist ( tech rep) and asked him to weigh in.
Weren't compressor stalls the main issue behind the engine problems the early SR-71's experienced?
Wed Dec 13, 2006 2:25 pm
Phil, I think your initial comment belongs over in the Pictures from the 80s thread ! 