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PostPosted: Sun Sep 19, 2004 10:01 am 
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Got this list from a source. Go to "aereo" on the list of links and look. I'd love to start my European parts endeavor, but might not be good for me...

http://www.procura.milano.giustizia.it/decretosequestro.html

There is also a real nice looking WWII jeep and weapons carrier there for those who like such things. It's hell to have more than one lust...

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I LIKE THE F-84 AND F-104 :lol: ANY HELLDIVER PARTS THERE?THEY START WITH THE PREFIX OF 84- THANKS MIKE


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The stuff was assembled in the past 5 years. Mostly complete (albeit strupped) aircraft from military sales. There are no spare parts as such as far as I can tell from reading the entire list.

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What is the transport bird marked with the SP code?


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Thanks for the data...Piaggio P166. Looks like it would be an interesting project.....but got too many irons in the fire right now. Other half wants the Aero Commander home and in work so she and my son can travel with me without all the trouble and hassles with the airlines. Probably going to go out to Phoenix on one more prep trip and then try to demate the wing and load it during Thanksgiving. Got some trailer mods and some rigging to be built before then.

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Craig, do you have any pics of the Aero Commander? Would love to see them.

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Gotta love those Fiats! hot little planes for thier time but they'd be a bear to get to and maintain at flying status.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 24, 2004 10:25 am 
Gentlemen,

This auction in Italy when was this? When is it going to be?
Location?
Any other info, contacts?

Hope you can help.

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What is the date of the auction. It looks like a WIXer needs to go over and take a look.

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Mr. Smuts...I don't believe the auction is a past event. I saw the listing last
week when posted. When I checked-out the auto section I was blown-away to see an Iso Grifo, a couple o' Countachs, a Porsche RSK Spyder(with drivers headrest fairing..Mille Miglia vet?) and a Alfa Romeo Montreal!! I was thinking--boy they sure have neat stuff in THEIR govt.
auctions!!

Tonight when I looked again, all of these cars I mentioned...and a few more Porsche and a Rolls are now marked across the photo...Vendita Sospesa (sale suspended)! They've been "cherrypicked"!!! Some rich
Count with a friend in govt.?

Another fascinating vision was 1188 motorcycles, mopeds, bubble-cars..
many of them post WW2 thru 60's vintage stuff....under the "motore" heading!

A round engine (possibly rite-side of C-47 displayed in aereo), and a Rolls
Royce (Cont?) flat 4..were both displayed with a bunch of old boat motors and industrial stuff!

In areo, is that Fiat G 91 with the hognose(photo-recon), a rare Y-model with TWIN J-85's?

Before you jump on the plane to go bid your "passion", make sure it's
not been Vendita Sospesa!!!!

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I never really gave the Fiat G91 much thought , other than to think of it
as a license version of the F-86D. To my surprise, they are a scale-down version of the F-86K. The G91Y is a foto-recon, light tacticalfighterbomber version of the G91T (trainer) powered by 2 afterburning J-85-GE-13A's.

Armed with cameras, two 30mm cannon, and a pair of hydraulic act. airbrakes under the wing-section in the fuse. JATO assist points provided.. Four 1000# hardpoints under wing.
A wee bit of a hustler and a sprinter...and a streetfighter to boot!!

The auction G91Y with 32 Stormo number to left of tricolore roundel. In the aereo selection--bottom row, 2cond foto from left
http://ferdinando.cecchini.name/foto/1441.jpg

The Gruppo#, (13) to the right of the tricolore, and the unit badge fwd
edge of vert. fin under dark band...have been obliterated or "fuzzed-out"
as opposed to this "better days" photo here...
http://www.eichhorn.ws/html/body_fiat_g91y.htm

Black and white reference photo ,but with fair unit badge detail...
http://web.tiscali.it/CMPR/vecchiet.html?

The Light-Blue with the OD green, of the auction-version is not faded from
the Medium Grey/ODgreen of the Eichorn example...the Lt. Blue is a different camo combination.

Production...45 aircraft, 1966-1973... went to
1 Gruppo of the 8 Stormo(wing), and
13 Gruppo of the 32 Stormo

Coool....if all the links don't work out, my initial reference to the type was
Janes 76-77, pg. 101, 3-view drawing and foto of 32 Stormo example in flight.

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Any update on this auction?

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Proc. pen. n. 31034/03 R.G.N.R. Mod. 21



Power of attorney of the Republic
near the Court of Milan



DECREE THAT THE SALE ARRANGES
OF ASSETS IT SEIZES TO YOU PERISHABLE



THE PROSECUTING ATTORNEY

Read to the actions of the procedure and just the decree of search and dated 17.10.2003 and executed seizure from the Financial police of Milan in date 17.10.2003 in the comparisons of BORRA ANGELINO and BORRA CATERINO in the situated premises in Montebello of Battaglia, via for Lungavilla n. 43;

found that the things recovered in the local foretold ones have been inventoried, like he turns out from the missiva sended from the auxiliary one of P.G. CTR 2000 dated 04.04.2004 and from the CD, transmitted the same one to help;

found that between the assets in seizure the following assets are present:


ARTICLE
TOTAL

Military bathrobe
1

Mobile accessory
14

Accessory for pit
1

Airplane
19

Local p0wer source
2

Altimeter
1

Loudspeaker
2

Ambulance
1

Amplifier
5

Audio amplifier
6

Amphora
4

Antenna
6

Apparatus
2

Apparatus dep.
2

Apparatus electrical worker
1

Electronic apparatus
6

Military apparatus
8

Musical apparatus
3

Apparatus reception
1

Apparatus transmission
3

Cabinet
34

Axe
2

It inhales liquids
3

Exhaust fan
1

Industrial exhaust fan
1

Equipment
5

Equipment mil.
1

Military equipment
6

Equipment arena
1

Tool arena
1

Car
62

Self-propelled crane
1

Doll
3

Bench frigo
1

Bench job
7

Flag
1

Stretcher
5

Military stretcher
19

Barrel
1

Battery
1

Travelling case
2

Bici
1

Bicycle
9

Bicimoto
5

Balance
2

Railroad n.i.
10

Binoculars
2

Identifying Birillo
1

Kettle
1

Bottle
1

Bottle dep.
2

Bottle oxygen
1

Borraccia
2

Ag
4

Military ag
1

Bottle
4

Box shower
6

Military Branda
21

Brandina
2

Burner
2

Bus
1

Coffee pot
1

Calculating
2

Caliper of frequency
2

Truck
7

Truck firemen
2

Sampler
2

Canala writing desk
8

Telescope
1

Military telescope
1

Life raft
2

Military coat
5

Caravan
1

It loads battery
3

Wheelbarrow
1

Carrellino
1

Undercarriage
10

Undercarriage door packages
1

Carretto
2

Wheelbarrow
6

Wheelchair
1

Carrucola
1

Kart
9

Paper asciugatutto
16

Cartongesso
42

Helmet
2

Acoustic case
33

Amplified case
4

Metallic case
2

Safe
2

Cassette tools
1

Material cassette
1

Military cassette
1

Cassette stop
3

Cassettiera
1

Chain with hook
6

Support
11

Support measurement
1

Cable steel
2

Cable electrical worker
3

Basket fishes
1

Guitar
10

Belt with hook
1

Climatizzatore
1

Compact disk
1

Plywood
1

Member kitchen
28

Member gazebo
18

Member idromass.
2

Mobile member
31

Compressor
7

Air conditioner
6

Container
3

Container knows them dep.
4

Container knows them depur.
6

Control approached
1

Covered
1

Goblet
1

Kitchen gas
1

Cupola
5

Pillow
7

Decoder
4

Disc
1

Divano
2

Shower idromassaggio
1

Propeller
4

Helicopter
11

Encyclopedia
7

Equalizzatore
1

Synthetic grass
9

Fabbricatore ice
1

Beacon
3

Military beacon
2

Fasciatrice
1

Fax
3

Row electrical worker
1

Filter depurazione
8

Window
1

Flacone
1

Flash
2

Floppy disk
1

Fontana
2

Stove
1

Furnace
2

Camera
1

Refrigerator
1

Van
6

Leg writing desk
10

Hook
5

Generator
10

Military generator
2

Newspaper
1

Record player
1

Salvagente jacket
3

Gommone
2

Fat person
2

Gratta cheese
1

Electricity-generating group
5

Gloves
2

Hub
3

Idropulitrice
4

Idrosabbiatrice
1

Raincoat
1

System
1

Audio system
2

System cinema
1

System stereo
4

System video
12

Gear
1

Jeep
10

Kit aircraft
2

Military Kit
3

Kit clock
3

Kit pilot
1

Kit welding
2

Lamp
8

Lampadario
1

Fan Lampadario
1

Lamppost
11

Glass-washers
1

Lavastoviglie
7

Washing machine
5

Reader CD
1

Book
2

Skylight
6

Lume
9

Sewing machine
4

Typewriter
3

Camera
8

Machine you weave them
1

Mandolino
3

Stock-pot
3

Gas mask
3

Mask in iron
2

Mattress
2

Material electrical worker
2

Half amphibious
1

Half of age
2

Half elevator
1

Half military
46

Microscope
1

Mil.
1

Miniscooter
1

Missile
1

Optical meter
1

Mixer
5

Piece of furniture
9

Monitor
3

Motion
1188

Motor
17

Motor for skylight
6

Electric saw
1

Motoslitta
1

Muletto
1

Beach umbrella
22

Clock
2

Overcraft
2

Bench
2

Park bench
6

Panels mobile
18

Panel control
1

Cloth broom
1

Part writing desk
37

Dustbin
1

PC
1

Slowly
7

Pianoforte
1

Pianola
3

Piccone
5

Gun unscrews bolt
1

Hydraulic piston
3

Plafoniera
23

Playstation
1

Seat
4

Seats
2

Pump
1

Door
43

Door tools
1

Door fuel
1

Door CD Playstation
1

Door extinguishers
1

Door ammunitions
8

Door glances at them
1

Portavaso
4

Posacenere
10

Pressed
1

Floodlight
1

It extends
3

You clean up moquette
1

Pulmino
1

Pulsantiera bit
1

Picture
12

Raquet tennis
1

Radar
1

Radio
1

Radio of age
136

Military radio
3

Raviolatore
1

Container aluminum
8

Recorder to tape
1

Read net
2

Metallic net
8

Transmitter-receiver
3

Receiver
1

Reducing pressure
2

Towing
1

Riproduttore to cassettes
1

Heating
1

Coil pit
10

Wheel
2

Sabbiatrice
1

Military bag
1

Sleeping bag
8

Saldatore
2

Welder
1

Salvagente
1

Collapsible scale
1

Scale rescue
2

Scanner
3

Chair
96

Seat
1

It saws to tape
1

It saws circular
1

It saws electrical worker
1

Luminous signaler
4

Telephone secretariat
1

Saddleback horse
1

Tank
2

Stool
4

Sidecar
3

Sintetizzatore
1

Sirena
3

Sismografo
1

It slips
1

Brushing machine
1

Small mirror
1

Small mirror car
1

Printing
7

Radio station
1

Mobile radio station
4

Stendiario
1

Instrumentation
1

It stews
1

Support case
4

Plafoniera support
3

Alarm clock
10

Jerry can
39

Tapi rulant
1

Carpet
4

Plate
3

Nameplate
1

Table from I iron
1

Table in wood
14

Table
42

Chassis cupola
5

Chassis skylight
6

Telephone
6

Military telephone
3

Telemeter
2

Teletype
1

Television
4

It stretches
8

It stretches video floodlight
1

Termoconvettore
5

Thermometer
1

Heater
8

Tester
2

Tir
1

Toner
2

Military torch
2

Lathe
4

Bottoming drill
1

Telephone Traslatore
3

Tractor
10

Tritacarne
5

Bugle
1

Trombetta
3

Truck
1

Tube
1

Tube water
1

Coveralls
1

Tool
6

Valigetta
1

Suitcase
4

Military suitcase
3

Suitcase door ogetti
1

Suitcase door floodlight
1

Valve
1

Vanga
1

Several
8

Bathtub idromassaggio
2

Vase
40

Military varnish
6

Vetrata
2

Video floodlight
1

Video recorder
3

WC
2

Zaino
3

Military Zaino
1

IT COUNTS TOTAL
3.075





thought that such assets have nature of perishable things, since the mechanical componentistiche of the various assets can be damaged with not the use and the lacked maintenance and the other assets are assign to you, for analogous reasons of lacked maintenance to the degradation, waits also the not good conditions of conservation therefore like marked from the caretaker;

thought therefore that of such things the sale must be arranged, second the modalities previewed from the art. 83 of the norms of performance of the criminal procedure;

P.Q.M.

Read the artt. 260 and segg. c.p.p.; 83 transitory norms of performance, coordination and of the criminal procedure

It arranges the sale of the assets, best specifies to you in part motivates of the present provision, because it is be a matter of perishable things, to cure of the Secretariat of the Power of attorney of the Republic of Milan, also to private negotiation.

It arranges moreover that:

it is proceeded with warning of sale on the situated Internet of the Power of attorney (inserting photographies and description of the assets, with price base) and to the publication on daily paper to national importance and reviews specialized, of the existence, on the situated Web of the Power of attorney, the warning of sale of perishable seized things;
the clause is specified that the assets come yielded and accepted in the state of fact in which they are found;
the clause is specified that the Office in no case answers for the defects of the things;
the clause is specified that the purchaser will have to withdraw the goods nel fixed term of gg. three to pass gives given it dell' purchase;
the clause is specified that the purchaser will have to supply to the regolarizzazione of the good in the registries publics;
the clause is specified that the payment of the price will be converted in judicial warehouse intestate to the procedure and the indagati/imputati ones;
the clause is specified that in case of lacked withdrawal the good, in the term sub 4), the purchaser remains obliged to expenses for the destruction of the things;
the clause is specified that expenses of the sale procedure are to cargo of the purchaser
Milan the 4 june 2004

THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY

F.to Riccardo TARGETTI - Julia PERROTTI - Daisy B. TADDEI - Sost.


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Just checked the airplanes, helicopters and military vehicles for sale.

This is the time, when I wish I had tons of money, so I could just go there, and buy all the stuff I could possibly want!


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