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Wed Jan 10, 2007 3:19 pm

That is another museum I need to visit. Wow it is sharp. Original or not, the Corsair is nice.

Wed Jan 10, 2007 7:38 pm

The translation from Portuguese:

First photo:

Another view of the Me-109G-2 with emphasis on the Daimler-Benz DB605 engine.

Second photo:

The Me-109G-2 in Sao Carlos (St. Charles). This example began restoration in Germany, but more than two thirds of the work is being done in Brazil.


Saludos, (or: saudades)


Tulio

Wed Jan 10, 2007 7:43 pm

RMAllnutt wrote:
Airdales wrote:
me109me109 wrote:That Corsair looks like an early model, anyone who which?
Taylor

Don't get me gong on THAT Corsair again!!!
Jerry


and some place where it doesn't have a historical connection.

Cheers. Richard


Thousands of airplanes crossed the Atlantic, from Brazil to Africa (and back) during WW-II.

There were U.S. operated bases in their territory; the Brazilians sent an expeditionary unit to the Italian front, and operated not only artillery with Piper Cubs as spotters, but also a Squadron of P-47s that saw plenty of action in Italy.

Brazil also fought an anti-submarine war against Germany during WW-II mostly alongside their extended coast lines.

Saludos,


Tulio

Wed Jan 10, 2007 8:48 pm

Airdales wrote:Richard;
I'd at least have to say that besides being "glossy", it's the best color scheme I've ever seen that aircraft in!
I'm not trying to slight the NZ scheme, I'm just a tri-color navy kind-of-guy! :)
Looks like a great museum!
Blue skies,
Jerry


Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought that even a tri-color scheme is incorrect for a "birdcage" Corsair. Although it DOES look good.

Wed Jan 10, 2007 9:15 pm

Connery wrote:
Airdales wrote:Richard;
I'd at least have to say that besides being "glossy", it's the best color scheme I've ever seen that aircraft in!
I'm not trying to slight the NZ scheme, I'm just a tri-color navy kind-of-guy! :)
Looks like a great museum!
Blue skies,
Jerry


Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought that even a tri-color scheme is incorrect for a "birdcage" Corsair. Although it DOES look good.


Remember,
It was not origianlly a "Birdcage" Corsair. Still an F4U-1A, so it could've had the Tri-colors!
Jerry

Wed Jan 10, 2007 9:27 pm

Maybe somebody out there (Richard, Rob, Mark!!) can confirm that the tail strut on the Corsair in the TAM Museum looks like a later, extended version?

Also, doesn't that tail wheel on the BF-109 look a little large?
Jerry

Sat Jan 13, 2007 5:12 pm

Airdales wrote:Maybe somebody out there (Richard, Rob, Mark!!) can confirm that the tail strut on the Corsair in the TAM Museum looks like a later, extended version?


Yes... well spotted, that is a late model tail strut. The early ones didn't have the extension tube on the swivel mount. There was a transition phase where they built up the tail strut with extra steel, but then went straight to the tall-tube swivel unit.

There should also be an antenna line running to the top of the rudder (rather than the fin) for an early variant corsair too.

Cheers. Richard

Sat Jan 13, 2007 7:22 pm

The planes DO look gorgeous...hard to imagine them looking ANY better...and I am as against grounding an airworthy bird as anyone else on this forum....BUT...this place is at least comparable to the NASM Udvar Hazy facility.

The Corsair does look to have the longer tail strut. Tri color paint schemes were no strangers to the birdcage models, even tho this bird apparently originally was'nt....what they've attempted to do (and some would say succeeded) is portray an early F4U-1 flown by James A Halford of VF 17 about the time they were trying to carrier qualify the Corsair.

The Connie IS gorgeous...that would stop ANYONE in theior tracks, if the fightershave'nt already. VERY impressive collection. And looks to be very well lit, too. If ever I get to South SAmerica, this is definitely on my 'to do' list....along with Bone fishing in Belize....

Mark

Sun Jan 14, 2007 12:53 am

You are right about the Connie Mark... it is magnificent. A few short years ago it was a gutted hulk within a very short distance from being scrapped. It just goes to show you what a little money, vision and determination can do to return junk into beauty. Much like Mark Pilkington's efforts with the Lincoln and former CAF PBY... I am sure that they will bare similar fruit in a few years.

Cheers,
Richard
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