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PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2019 2:36 pm 
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Is there a schedule posted as to he route and dates for the 4014?


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PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2019 2:42 pm 
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https://www.up.com/heritage/steam/schedule/index.htm



Saturday, May 4

Christening
Depart 9:30 a.m. MT
10:00 a.m. MT Cheyenne, Wyo.
Cheyenne Depot Museum
121 W. 15th Street
Christening Ceremony Ticket Information
Arrival
Depart 11:15 a.m. MT
11:30 a.m. MT Harriman, Wyo.
County Road 102 Crossing
Arrival
Depart 12:30 p.m. MT
1:15 p.m. MT Laramie, Wyo.
Laramie Historic Railroad Depot
E. Kearney and S. 1st St.
Arrival
Depart 2:30 p.m. MT
3:15 p.m. MT Medicine Bow, Wyo.
Hwy. 30 at Medicine Bow-McFadden Rd.
Arrival 4:45 p.m. MT Rawlins, Wyo.
East Railroad St & Higley Blvd.

Sunday, May 5

Depart 8:00 a.m. MT Rawlins, Wyo.
East Railroad St & Higley Blvd.
Arrival
Depart 9:15 a.m. MT
10:00 a.m. MT Wamsutter, Wyo.
Near Water Tower
Broadway Street
Arrival 11:15 a.m. MT Rock Springs, Wyo.
501 N. Front St

Monday, May 6

Depart 4:00 a.m. MT Rock Springs, Wyo.
501 N. Front St
Arrival
Depart 4:55 a.m. MT
5:10 a.m. MT Green River, Wyo.
Depot
200 E. Railroad Ave
Arrival
Depart 6:15 a.m. MT
7:00 a.m. MT Granger, Wyo.
Main Street crossing
Arrival 8:45 a.m. MT Evanston, Wyo.
1500 Main St.

Tuesday, May 7

No Public Display Evanston, Wyo.
1500 Main St.

Wednesday, May 8

Depart 8:00 a.m. MT Evanston, Wyo.
1500 Main St.
Arrival
Depart 9:25 a.m. MT
9:40 a.m. MT Echo, Utah
Echo Road Crossing
Arrival
Depart 10:20 a.m. MT
10:35 a.m. MT Morgan, Utah
Morgan Depot
98 Commercial Street
Arrival 11:35 a.m. MT Ogden, Utah
No Public Access


Thursday, May 9
Ogden's Heritage Festival

Celebration 10:30 a.m. MT Ogden, Utah
Ogden Union Station
2501 Wall Ave.
Open to the Public
No Ticket Required
More Information: Ogden Heritage Festival
On Display: Noon – 3:00 p.m. MT Ogden, Utah
Ogden's Union Station
2501 Wall Ave.
Experience the Union Pacific Rail Car

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The Great Race from Ogden – No. 844 and No. 4014

Following the 150th anniversary celebrations, No. 4014 and No. 844 will double-head on their return trip to the Union Pacific Steam Shop in Cheyenne, stopping in communities along the way including Rock Springs and Laramie, Wyoming.




Friday, May 10 – Saturday, May 11

On Display: 10:00 a.m. – 3:00 p.m. MT Ogden, Utah
Ogden Union Station
2501 Wall Ave.
Experience the Union Pacific Rail Car


Sunday, May 12
Spike 150 Train Excursion

Depart 8:00 a.m. MT
Ogden, Utah
Ogden Union Station
2501 Wall Ave.
Spike 150 Train Excursion Tickets

Arrival
Depart 9:15 a.m. MT
9:25 a.m. MT Morgan, Utah
98 Commercial Street
Arrival
Depart 9:55 a.m. MT
10:05 a.m. MT Echo, Utah
Echo Road Crossing
Arrival 11:05 a.m. MT Evanston, Wyo.
Evanston Depot
10th St.

Monday, May 13

Depart 8:00 a.m. MT Evanston, Wyo.

Arrival
Depart 10:00 a.m. MT
10:45 a.m. MT Granger, Wyo.
Main Street crossing
Arrival
Depart 11:50 a.m. MT
12:05 p.m. MT Green River, Wyo.
200 E. Railroad Ave
Arrival 12:45 p.m. MT Rock Springs, Wyo.
501 N. Front St

Tuesday, May 14 – Wednesday, May 15

On Display: 9:00 a.m. – 3:00 p.m. MT Rock Springs, Wyo.
501 N. Front St
Experience the Union Pacific Rail Car

Thursday, May 16

Depart 8:00 a.m. MT Rock Springs, Wyo.
501 N. Front St
Arrival
Depart 9:00 a.m. MT
9:15 a.m. MT Point of Rocks, Wyo.
Black Buttes Road
Arrival
Depart 10:30 a.m. MT
11:30 a.m. MT Wamsutter, Wyo.
Near Water Tower
Broadway Street
Arrival 12:45 p.m. MT Rawlins, Wyo.
East Railroad St & Higley Blvd.

Friday, May 17

Depart 8:00 a.m. MT Rawlins, Wyo.
East Railroad St & Higley Blvd.
Arrival
Depart 9:00 a.m. MT
9:15 a.m. MT Hanna, Wyo.
Main St. & Front St.
Arrival
Depart 9:45 a.m. MT
10:45 a.m. MT Medicine Bow, Wyo.
Hwy. 30 at Medicine Bow-McFadden Rd.
Arrival 12:45 p.m. MT Laramie, Wyo.
Laramie Historic Railroad Depot
E. Kearney and S. 1st St.
No Public Access

Saturday, May 18

No Public Access Laramie, Wyo.
Laramie Historic Railroad Depot
E. Kearney and S. 1st St.

Sunday, May 19

Depart 8:00 a.m. MT Laramie, Wyo.
Laramie Historic Railroad Depot
E. Kearney and S. 1st St.
Arrival
Depart 9:15 a.m. MT
9:25 a.m. MT Sherman Hill, Wyo.

Arrival 11:05 a.m. MT Cheyenne, Wyo.
UP Steam Shop

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PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2019 4:46 pm 
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70-80 MPH for the Big Boy


The "official" top speed of 4014 was 70, though it never attained that. Highest it ever did was in the mid-60s, maybe 68. It was actually most efficient, in terms of torque, at around 30-35.


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PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2019 6:48 pm 
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Will they use it to pull real loads or just for tours?


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She's hardly a warbird, but I'm hardly complaining. Thanks to all for a superbly fascinating thread! Oh my goodness ... steam! Wish I could hear it and smell it and feel it... :shock:

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PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2019 7:21 am 
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lucky52 wrote:
Will they use it to pull real loads or just for tours?

If while they are moving it, there is a scheduled load, they will take it, UP is not shy about putting the steamers to work when they need to.

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PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2019 7:57 am 
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When I look at heavy armor restorations, or in this case a steam locomotive, I'm a bit envious that they don't have to worry about fancy paint finishes and small easily damaged parts...unlike a car or airplane :)
On the other hand, with those you don't need a crane or forklift as a key tool either.

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PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2019 10:51 am 
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Cool post Matt! Thank you so much for posting! I don't have much knowledge of trains but the one time I got to catch one of the steam trains in the wild was about 1990..coulda been '91 or '92 tho. I only managed to snap 3 pictures of it as it blasted by and didn't recall what train it was until this thread. We had a visit in San Antonio by a direct predecessor of the Big Boys, UP X3985, one of the ALCO Challenger series 4-6-6-4's built in 1943. A coal burner, she was converted to fuel oil in 1990, IIRC. From what I've gathered with the war on the horizon it was decide to upgrade the Challengers with an additional 2 sets of driving wheels to the 4-8-8-4 setup to create the Big Boy's.

Now that 4014 is out of restoration, X3985 will be coming out of refurb in a couple of more years to return to the tracks. The following link is a snap by someone else of 3985 as she appeared in Forney, Texas about the same time...looking much the same...blowin' and goin'...not highballin', but moving at a good clip...
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPi ... id=2647441

A page of X3985 photos, you can see the direct resemblance by comparing photos of the 2 beasts...
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/Locopi ... px?id=3208

Also, I was reading that the Big Boy series got its name when an unknown shop worker scrawled Big Boy in chalk on the first one being built and the name stuck...hence the chalked name on the front of 4014 replicating the event.

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PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2019 1:21 pm 
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JohnB wrote:
When I look at heavy armor restorations, or in this case a steam locomotive, I'm a bit envious that they don't have to worry about fancy paint finishes and small easily damaged parts...unlike a car or airplane :)
You'd be surprised, there are a lot of things to break on a locomotive. For example, if you manage to break the water sight glass (a level that shows you how much water you have above the firebox), you have to drop the fires as there's no way to know your water level. They're really hard to break, but I know it has happened. There are also lots of 'small' parts on a locomotive which can sideline it. Stuff breaks on the road.
Heck, Southern Pacific 4-8-4 # 4449 had a separation between the engine and the tender once (the drawbar just dropped out the bottom), on a long trip. If the cab hadn't had a back wall, people would have likely fallen out to a very bad end. the crew actually had people walking the track to find the pin that fell out and fixed it in a few hours, all out on the road.
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Will they use it to pull real loads or just for tours?

Beats me, but UP has used the Challenger (3985) on freight trains in the past.
They don't run excursions like the Norfolk Southern used to, as most of their trips are hard to get to (either very expensive or very exclusive). Many times, you need a lot of coin or be a shipper on the UP to get on board.

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Matt Gunsch wrote:
lucky52 wrote:
Will they use it to pull real loads or just for tours?

If while they are moving it, there is a scheduled load, they will take it, UP is not shy about putting the steamers to work when they need to.



Matt pretty much nailed it on the head. The steam locomotives are used for PR purposes. But they can, and will, pull freight if necessary.

844 pulling freight

https://youtu.be/A17fQpoCQ-0

3985 pulling freight

https://youtu.be/XhgHrDbN4EU


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PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2019 3:04 pm 
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Never been one to follow trains, but this is pretty cool! Thanks for posting, pretty awesome that UP spearheaded this.


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PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2019 11:16 pm 
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I believe 844 pulled a load of freight from Denver to Cheyenne last year. More of a rare occurrence these days but it happens.


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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2019 2:22 am 
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Pogo wrote:
She's hardly a warbird, but I'm hardly complaining. Thanks to all for a superbly fascinating thread! Oh my goodness ... steam! Wish I could hear it and smell it and feel it... :shock:


Sorry I can't help you with the smell and feel of it, but here's a pretty good amateur video with some nicely-lit pacing and sound...enjoy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvKfu_E ... r_embedded


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Is she coal or oil fired?


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Sopwith wrote:
Is she coal or oil fired?

Originally coal, now fired with oil

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