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Wed Oct 09, 2013 10:30 am
Wed Oct 09, 2013 10:59 am
This is the one that is listed on Platinum Fighters ( or at least was listed). There is more information on its "current" condition there.
Simon
Wed Oct 09, 2013 11:06 am
Harold Kindsvater's old plane?
I'd love to buy that and restore it to it's pre-Don Whittington low-pass configuration as I always thought that was the coolest of the CAF Buchon paint jobs.
Wed Oct 09, 2013 11:21 am
This one?
Wed Oct 09, 2013 11:43 am
Warbird Kid wrote:This one?

No, the one that was flown into the ground gear-up at Airsho '76 and sat in disrepair for the next 30 years is the one I'm referring to.
Wed Oct 09, 2013 12:41 pm
Is this it? (5th post down)
viewtopic.php?p=279297
Wed Oct 09, 2013 2:54 pm
Warbird Kid wrote:This one?

This one crashed (Pilot & Plane both Lost) because carb. had'nt been overhauled ( bad float).
Wed Oct 09, 2013 4:51 pm
Was that the one with a white spinner/red spiral stripe on it? That was the first 109 I saw in San Marcos say 1972 and it caught on fire and was left out on the taxi way until after the show...
Wed Oct 09, 2013 8:16 pm
That is not the BF-109E that is listed on Platinum, Thiers's is a real BF-109E not a Buchon and the price was reduced to 3.75 million. 1 of 2 airworthy E models, the other belongs to Paul Allen at FHC
Wed Oct 09, 2013 8:23 pm
The fine print......
Seller Notes: "the aircraft has been damaged in a nose over while TAXYING accident. Repair can be executed at the german airport. Costs of repair on request"
Wed Oct 09, 2013 8:59 pm
Lynn Allen wrote:Was that the one with a white spinner/red spiral stripe on it? That was the first 109 I saw in San Marcos say 1972 and it caught on fire and was left out on the taxi way until after the show...
No, it's this one...N9939. It didn't fly very much before the accident.
http://www.steveguilford.com/photoGalle ... fullsize=1
Thu Oct 10, 2013 9:04 am
The fine print......
Seller Notes: "the aircraft has been damaged in a nose over while TAXYING accident. Repair can be executed at the german airport. Costs of repair on request"
That's why I thought the add was strange. They show one photo of the a/c in flight and nothing else.
Another ground loop in waiting. What's the most amount of hours put on any restored 109 before being wrecked on landing?
Thu Oct 10, 2013 1:17 pm
PinecastleAAF wrote:What's the most amount of hours put on any restored 109 before being wrecked on landing?
Probably the 2 currently operating in the UK. Come to think of it, they're probably the only two Merlin-engined ones operational anywhere at the moment.
Thu Oct 10, 2013 3:13 pm
Speedy wrote:Harold Kindsvater's old plane?
I'd love to buy that and restore it to it's pre-Don Whittington low-pass configuration as I always thought that was the coolest of the CAF Buchon paint jobs.
Yes, it is Harold Kindsvater´s old plane. It is owned by Air Fighter Academy located at Heringsdorf airport in Germany. I read, the noseover was due to a wet area / strip on the taxiway. The wheels sunk in, the pilot tried to get her out by applying more power. Finally the rear fuselage moved up, the prop hit the ground. Due to the metal prop there was quite some damage to the engine (and fuselage?). The plane is currently at MeierMotors AFAIK.
You can see it in their shop in the background on their facebook site, scroll down to 15. Juni, the pic with Jerry Yagen´s G-4 in the foreground, Tiger Moth to the left, PA 18 (95?) behind.
https://www.facebook.com/pages/MeierMot ... 9400376090Pre-taxying incident restoration here:
http://www.meiermotors.com/de/aircraft/ ... 09/84.htmlMichael
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