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 Post subject: Morane Saulnier 406
PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2005 10:06 am 
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No prizes for guessing what was absolutely my favourite aircraft of the weekend at La Ferte Alais.

The stunning EFW D-3801 (Swiss development of the MS.406) HB-RCF, rebuilt by Max Vogelsang, now with new owners and repainted in French AF markings.

Just to hear the crackle of that Hispano Suiza as it taxied out across the grass at a French airfield. Worth the trip for that alone........ :) :) :)

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PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2005 1:57 pm 
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Hi Mike,

Great pics.. :D Thanks for posting them.

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The stunning EFW D-3801 (Swiss development of the MS.406) HB-RCF, rebuilt by Max Vogelsang, now with new owners and repainted in French AF markings.


Yes, a very beautiful (and rare) machine. My uncle was was indirectly involved in some of the work on the original restoration, mainly having to do with the engine.

I'm very curious, how does the Hispano Suiza sound compared to a Merlin, Allison or Griffon (or a Daimler Benz)?

Also, do you know if the new owners are still Swiss or ?

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 Post subject: Morane MS.406
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Yes..great shots Mike of a very rare bird! Thank-you! I would like to see
the 406 in formation with a Caudron C.714 someday. 'Twould be a sight!

Ditto for the Hispano Suiza sound-track..do you know if anyone captured
those sounds on audio/video while there? Sure would like to hear and see
her in motion!!

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Hey Airnutz,

There is a downloadable movie on the Flypast Forum of the MS-406 take-off , flight and landing.
Well worth seeing (and hearing !!)

If you need any help, just let me know.

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 Post subject: MS.406
PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2005 9:44 pm 
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Thanks Turbo..I hadn't checked in for a few days..I shoulda known.

I do need some help though. Do you know any 20-30 something females
with a few $million in the bank, who are turned on by warbirds and poor
Texas fatboys?

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ha ha, if you have a few miillion in the bank and are Texan, the Kiwi chicks would be interested..... :lol:

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 Post subject: Movie of D-3801
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I checked on the Flypast forum and did not see the movie clip..

turbo_NZ, where it was located?

TIA

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 Post subject: MS.406 video clip
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Try here for the link to the video clip of the MS.406 at La Ferte Alais.


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I dunno if we're allowed to link WMV's but here it is http://p51d20na.club.fr/d3801_lfa.wmv

(Sorry, Scott, if I'm not :oops: )

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 Post subject: MS.406
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Thanks turbo and Mike for the help...filesize too large for "my wheezer",
but will go to view the video on my bro's ubercomputer.

turbo_NZ...as for the other help...sheesh, story of my life, always a few
million short of paradise! :lol:

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 Post subject: D-3801 movie clip
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Thanks Turbo_NZ, the linked file worked perfectly. :D

The 12Y-51 sounds different than I'd expected. On a few passes it sounded like a 6 cyl Cont/Lycoming (obviously more from prop noise) & in another pass more like an R-2800! while in most of the rest similar to the Allision V-1710 (which is also 2 v/cyl). Alot less crackling and popping on roll-out than a Merlin as well..

All in all fascinating to finally hear what one sounds like..

Thanks.

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 Post subject: Re: D-3801 movie clip
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Hiergehts wrote:
...while in most of the rest similar to the Allision V-1710 (which is also 2 v/cyl).
Where did you put the other two valves?


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No probs !!! :D

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 Post subject: the other two valves?
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Where did you put the other two valves?


The bean counters said: "We don't need no stinkin 4 valves per cylinder, we can do things just as well with 2" :lol:

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 Post subject: MS406
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The current owner is Swiss.

According to swiss Mustang, his name cannot be remmebered.

If you send Martin a PM, he might reply


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