Nixon

[Bill Greenwood]

I am watching the History Channel tonight, Thur., on Nixon, not just the politics, but the real inside and personal part. It is amazing and hard to believe that we were ever subject to anyone that dishonest, that lack of personal integrity, that removed from normality as a human being; with the effect being one of such evil. I graduated college then, went into the Air Force, and I still had a lot more friends in college than in the service. I went to the 2nd march in Washington. This show says Nixon wanted the FBI and CIA to find the "foreign agents" behind the college anti-war movement. Apparently his mind was like some Chevy Chase movie, and when the FBI told him there weren't foreign agents, Nixon told them to look harder. Long before Bush was spying on us, he had wiretaps not just on major newspaper editors, but his own cabinet and people, and IRS pursuing other media people.

[Former Member]

It is amazing and hard to believe that we were ever subject to anyone that dishonest, that lack of personal integrity, that removed from normality as a human being; with the effect being one of such evil.

Hmmmm...sounds like history is repeating itself.

John

[APG85]

Yikes!...don't believe everything you see on the History channel. I'm not saying Nixon was a saint, but take into account the people who typically produce "entertainment". The man did an awful lot of good that hardly gets reported on. There are some even handed books out there that put the facts straight..the good and the bad on Nixon. Is there any wonder that every President up until Nixon's death called upon him for advise...

[Former Member]

I remember seeing the movie "Nixon" back in the 90's which starred Anthony Hopkins...it wasn't very flattering toward's Nixon either. What was really troubling in the movie was his over-use of prescription meds toward the end of his presidency. I also remember the scene where Nixon and the actor playing Henry Kissinger are discussing how to end the war in Vietnam. Nixon is so frustrated with the North Vietnamese and their refusal to come to the peace table that he says..."if that doesn't work then by george we'll drop the big one". Pretty scary to think a man like this had the ability to start WWIII.

John

[Bill Greenwood]

AP, what I am mostly referring to is not what the History Channel or some opponent said about him. Rather it is Nixon's own words as recorded on his secret White House machines, and what his own people have admitted. Until Cheney came along has there been a worse vice pres than Agnew. As for as doing some good things. Yes, if you ignore the murders OJ was a hell of a guy, did great Hertz commercials. And Hitler was not a bad aritst and was kind the his girlfriend and his dog. How about you seeing the program and posting again?

[TimAPNY]

I was watching a show on John Adams, besides the fact he seemed like a very good guy, He was doing things that limited freedoms in ways that just a few years before he had "fought" to get (but he seemed grieved by it or at least that is they way the historian portrayed it).

Look at the Freedoms that were put on hold during WW1 and WW2, something don’t change and never will. Most of the things that we are reading about have been going on far longer than the current administration but no one really cared or they did not see the light of day.

So really the Current President and the current times are not much different than they were 200, 60, 80 years ago.

Nixon seemed like a very Paranoid person! And that can and did get him in big trouble!


Tim

[APG85]

Again, try reading some even handed, fact based books about the man before condeming him. The movie Nixon was made by a raging liberal who notoriously turns fact into fiction. Comparing President Nixon to OJ or Hitler is silly (IMO). Then again, I've only read half a dozen books on the man, visited his library (which is awesome!), and have a Nixon paper weight on my desk at work! Yes, I'm a Nixon Admirer ...

I'm sure I'll get tore apart for this post

[Flashonyrsix]

IN '76 I meet a buddy I served with in Korea at Ft Lewis on the wall in the dayroom was a sign. JFK sent us there LBJ left us there Nixon grought us home.

Norm

[Bill Greenwood]

APG, you said he did good things. The only one I can think of is he is credited with expanding relations with China. However he was previously the big obstacle to better foreign relations, so all he really did was finally see the light on that. Sure I was joking about OJ, but to evaluate Nixon as good, you have to ignore the quarter million deaths or so he was responsible for. If you ignore 2 murders and a little spouse abuse, OJ did some "good things".