Support Our Troops, slogan or reality?

[Bill Greenwood]

It make a handly ribbon to put on the rear of Suvs and pickups, but how far does the support go when a severely injured young man or women really needs help? Today ABC had a story on Bob Woodward and his recovery from a brain injury from Iraq. They have researched and found emergencly care from the battlefield is good, but the follow up theraphy at VA hospitals is lacking. Part 2 will be on Tuesday night.

[Former Member]

Sadly...for many (not all ) Bush supporters out there supporting the troops means driving around in a gas-gusseling SUV with a yellow magnetic support the troops ribbon, "W" sticker, and fish symbol on the bumper. If they only knew the voting record of some of their GOP elected lawmakers when it comes to veterans issues and funding they'd be shocked.

What's even worse is when you have to listen to Bush or Cheney imply that if you don't agree with the president's decisions you're then labled unpatriotic and unsupportive of our troops.

John

[chico]

As inappropriate and crude as it is, I want one that I saw the other day. It was the same yellow ribbon, but the text read "empty gesture." I know not everyone who's sporting a yellow ribbon is making an empty, be-like-everybody-else, gesture, but damned if there don't seem to be a lot of those around. "Oh, those ribbon-thingies are cute."

I like looking for the worn, faded "never forget" or "eagle against an American flag" stickers that people still show. I'm more offended by those. I guess patriotism is a some-time thing, huh?

There are better ways to display your patriotism than by supporting the guy that's making five bucks a sticker off of non-copyrighted images.

[Former Member]

Yeah...it's too bad we as Americans aren't forced to sacrifice on the home front like they did during WWII. To help fund the current disaster in Iraq we could have the following:

* Fuel rationing

* Substantial tax hikes to pay for the Iraq war...start implementing a policy of "pay as you go" instead of funding the war on the national credit card.

* Mandatory 1-2 year national service (just like Israel). I'm not talking a draft...but mandatory service for every able bodied kid that turns 18 (male & female) in either the military or some other organization like Americorps, Civilian Conservation Corp, WPA, etc. And no multiple deferments for the Dick Cheneys of the world (5 deferments ) that were born with a silver spoon in their ass.

Now if these measures were implemented I wonder how many people would be gung ho to support Bush and the war in Iraq?

John

[bdk]

Sadly...for many (not all ) Bush supporters out there supporting the troops means driving around in a gas-gusseling SUV...

Are you sure you aren't talking about Al Gore?

Johnson, whose group usually focuses on government spending issues, said he "doesn't differ much from Al Gore on his environmental concerns."

"We went into this just asking the question, 'Is the leader of the environmental movement basically living up to his word?' Given that he's a Tennessean, I thought it's a question we should ask."

What they found is someone whose home uses as much power in a month as an average family would use in a year, he said.

In addition to the electric bill, the natural gas bill for Gore's home and guesthouse ran $1,080 per month last year, Johnson said.

"For someone in his position not to take steps to reduce his own energy consumption is disingenuous," he said. "He's simply not taking all the steps he can take and should take as the leader of the environmental movement."

[Former Member]

Sadly...for many (not all ) Bush supporters out there supporting the troops means driving around in a gas-gusseling SUV...

Are you sure you aren't talking about Al Gore?

Johnson, whose group usually focuses on government spending issues, said he "doesn't differ much from Al Gore on his environmental concerns."

"We went into this just asking the question, 'Is the leader of the environmental movement basically living up to his word?' Given that he's a Tennessean, I thought it's a question we should ask."

What they found is someone whose home uses as much power in a month as an average family would use in a year, he said.

In addition to the electric bill, the natural gas bill for Gore's home and guesthouse ran $1,080 per month last year, Johnson said.

"For someone in his position not to take steps to reduce his own energy consumption is disingenuous," he said. "He's simply not taking all the steps he can take and should take as the leader of the environmental movement."

Ummm...can't speak for Al Gore but you do have to give the man credit for putting the topic of Global Warming into the mainstream media. A far cry from Bush and his energy industry pals who deny and play down the threat as "junk science".

John

[mustangdriver]

Global warming? It was 6 in Pittsburgh last week.

[Shay]

Global warming? It was 6 in Pittsburgh last week.

That's not because of "Global Warming".......GOD just hates the "Steelers"

Shay
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Semper Fortis

[bdk]

Ummm...can't speak for Al Gore but you do have to give the man credit for putting the topic of Global Warming into the mainstream media.

Al Gore says, “I’ve been trying to tell this story for 30 years” about "global warming," but the well accepted belief by the scientific community only 20 years ago was that we were headed into the next ice age. What a freaking Nostradamus!

Of course this comes from the same guy that invented the internet...

Al Gore is a fraud through and through.

Al Gore Discusses Global Warming With 'The Daily Show's' Jon Stewart
Posted by Noel Sheppard on June 30, 2006 - 00:58.
As most of you will read this first thing in the morning, I not only suggest you not have a coffee cup near your computer, but also highly recommend that you remove all fragile objects from the room.

Yes, this is that hysterical, for Wednesday evening, comedian and faux-scientist Al Gore was Jon Stewart’s guest on Comedy Central’s “The Daily Show.” In reality, this was the perfect venue for Dr. Gore to discuss his absurd ideas if you think about it, for as the subject was Gore’s new romantic comedy, “An Inconvenient Truth,” the yucks were aplenty.

As this was a long segment, I will highlight only a few of the finer moments, and then encourage you to watch the video (courtesy of Expose the Left) for the full effect, as this one doesn’t disappoint.

The first guffaw came quite early on when Stewart asked Dr. Gore when he first started doing this slide show about global warming. Now, bear in mind that in the movie, Gore claims that America has only ten years to avert a major environmental crisis. Yet, obviously having forgotten this, Gore first answered, “Oh, eight years…a long time.” Then, much like he did on the campaign trail, he changed his position: “Actually, since before I became vice president.”

Okay. So, assuming the second answer is the right one, that means that he’s been doing this presentation for at least fourteen years…which means the end of the world happened four years ago, and we all missed it!

Maybe even more beautiful, much later in the discussion, Dr. Gore changed his position once again claiming “I’ve been trying to tell this story for 30 years.” This is kind of like that recent Associated Press report that first claimed the earth is currently the hottest it’s been in 400 years, then changed it to 1,000 years, and changed it again to 2,000 years.

Ain’t junk science wonderful?

Later, Dr. Gore made the bold assertion that global warming “is the only crisis we've ever faced that has the capacity to completely end human civilization.” Stewart correctly pointed out: “Nuclear's got a shot. The bomb's got a shot.”

Dr. Gore fired back (better put down your coffee cups!): “Well, when we had the prospect of an all-out nuclear exchange, yes, but even that would not have necessarily caused the kind of radical transformation of the whole planet's environment in a way that was unstoppable.”

http://newsbusters.org/node/6195

[mustangdriver]

He didn't last year, I was in Detroit with them.

[Former Member]

Al Gore is a fraud through and through.

To each his own I guess. I'd rather vote for a fraud than a crook who holds secret energy task force meetings and allows the energy industry lobbiests to write the nations energy policies.

John

[Bill Greenwood]

The 2nd part of the program was last night. It showed the execellent high tech care wounded soldiers get to be transported from the battlefield to Europe or US hospitals, Of course the medical personel are caring and efficient. I had to turn it off, could not take the sight of so many young people who ought to have a good life ahead of them, now trying to live without legs or sight or with brain injuries. It said the worse part is that after they go to long term care the VA is underfunded, overloaded and the theraphy is not good enough. If we callously send these kids into a meatgrinder, the very least we can do as a country is give them the best care when they return, and not forget them. BDK, don't you think this is a moore important part of the story than your dislike for Gore or the car he drives?

[Former Member]

BDK, don't you think this is a more important part of the story than your dislike for Gore or the car he drives?

Hmmm...you're probably wasting your time with this question Bill. Deep down inside I'm sure he does agree with you but you know...it's just so much easier to shift the topic to what kind of car Al Gore drives. After all...to think about maimed kids and ruined lives, all courtesy of one's worshiped and beloved idol & hero (the "decidicater" ) can be a bitter pill to swallow.

John

Quote from President George W. Bush:
"I'm the decider, and I decide what's best"

[bdk]

Sadly...for many (not all ) Bush supporters out there supporting the troops means driving around in a gas-gusseling SUV...

Bill, I'm not the one who brought up the cars politicians (or their supporters) drive. And someone else posted all the fancy graphics trying to perpetuate childish stereotypes to convey their own agenda.

Did you see the same program I did? I saw the clip last night and did not see anyone without legs or sight or with brain injuries. They featured a guy that had a broken leg and a bruised internal organ. No telling if that was a combat injury or a simple accident in a rear area. They didn't say. Similar injuries and worse are suffered in training here in the US all the time.

Did the story mention anything about the inadequate funding of the VA? I don't recall that.

[Former Member]

And someone else posted all the fancy graphics trying to perpetuate childish stereotypes to convey their own agenda.

Awww come on bdk...you know it's all in good fun. Even though we may not agree in politics I still respect your opinions (most of the time )

John