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Wed Mar 14, 2007 10:57 am

I'd like to see my sanity. It's not like it's museum-worthy, but if anyone found it, I think it'd be pretty rare. :lol:

Gary

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Wed Mar 14, 2007 11:00 am

I misread the criteria, before I wrote. If it is an aviation artifact, I'd say the Wright Flyer is IT, no question. Maybe Spirit is #2. If we stretch it a long ways my 10 commandments is aviation related. Remember the Indiana Jones movie where he was racing the Nazis to find the ARC because of its mystical powers, sort of nuclear powers. The Nazis actually did research this idea. In the movie there is a twin engine pusher light bomber that is very teutonic looking. It taxis in a circle and eventually chops up the vilan. Does anybody know if there was a real plane like this? Is my link a little tenous? Would it be creditable if I had Powell as a front man?

Wed Mar 14, 2007 11:51 am

A Fokker Dr I and D VII both FLOWN by the Red Baron.

Wed Mar 14, 2007 12:00 pm

The Lunar Module Eagle from the Apollo 11 mission.

Wed Mar 14, 2007 4:38 pm

How about a museum of Former Aviation Museums?

Wed Mar 14, 2007 5:52 pm

something rare and exotic from Roswell, circa 1948, complete with crew. :wink: And the red '109 V-14 prototype flown by Ernst Udet at the Zurich Air Meet. Oh, and for sure a wing with the B-17, B-24, and B-25 that were all covered in factory worker's signatures, and might as well throw in "A Bit O'Lace" as well for good measure...darn, can't leave out "Yippee" as well.

cheers

greg v.

P.S. you'd also need F4J BU number 155800...

Wed Mar 14, 2007 7:37 pm

XB-35, YB-49 and definitely Wright Flyer along with the Spirit of St Louis. But wait, those last two are already being done so they can't count in the fantasy world.

Wed Mar 14, 2007 7:58 pm

How about a flying museum that has an artifact called "Swamp Ghost," and they roll it out and fly it once in a while? :wink:

Wed Mar 14, 2007 8:09 pm

Bill et al--

The thingy in "Raiders of the Lost Ark" was one of the Horten flying wing designs; yes they did exist, the final one of the series being a twin-jet fighter/bomber built and flown in 1945, the Gotha 229, which looks like nothing so much as a one-third-scale Northrop B-2A Spirit...The third prototype Go229 survives, in storage at NASM. An amazing piece of design for something that actually flew 62 years ago!

I like that "former museums" idea. Would make a good book topic, especially if enough relevant photos were gathered...could include everything from Wings & Wheels and the Victory Air Museum back to the legendary Berliner Luftfahrtsammlung that met with catastrophe during the latter stages of WWII...

S.

Wed Mar 14, 2007 9:20 pm

I would love to see a Bf 109Z next to a F-82.

Wed Mar 14, 2007 9:44 pm

A Fokker Dr I and D VII both FLOWN by the Red Baron.

The RAAF Museum at Point Cook, Melbourne, Australia, has got what has to be the largest collection of artifacts from the Red Baron and his Triplane, including a machine gun, wing srut, compass, tacho and numerous strips of red fabric. They used to have one of his flying boots to, but IIRC, it has been reunited with the other boot at the Australian War Memorial in Canberra. All good students of WWI would know that Richtofen was shot down by Australian ground troops, who then proceeded to strip the aircraft for souveniers, hence so much of it turning up in Australia.

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Wed Mar 14, 2007 9:57 pm

GREG V has topped most us with the Roswell flyer "complete with crew". What would you pay for this little bird? I can't guarantee complete originality, you might want to have a bit of a pre buy inspection; but I do know where one of these birds is! And it actually flew. It is however reputed to handle a liitle less well behaved than a Spitifire, but think of the fun of checking yourself out in it. I'm open to offers to act as your agent.

Wed Mar 14, 2007 10:08 pm

mightyauster wrote:
A Fokker Dr I and D VII both FLOWN by the Red Baron.

The RAAF Museum at Point Cook, Melbourne, Australia, has got what has to be the largest collection of artifacts from the Red Baron and his Triplane, including a machine gun, wing srut, compass, tacho and numerous strips of red fabric. They used to have one of his flying boots to, but IIRC, it has been reunited with the other boot at the Australian War Memorial in Canberra. All good students of WWI would know that Richtofen was shot down by Australian ground troops, who then proceeded to strip the aircraft for souveniers, hence so much of it turning up in Australia.


I think you will find Peter Jackson's Richthofen memorabilia will rival that, due to go on display at the Omaka Heritage Centre in a few weeks. It includes a cross from the Triplane fuselage and several of the Baron's silver victory cups.

Dave

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Wed Mar 14, 2007 10:15 pm

The thingy in "Raiders of the Lost Ark" was one of the Horten flying wing designs;


Actually, it wasn't. The thing in "Raiders" was a totally ficticious creation of the special effects guys. Speilberg wanted a cool looking flying wing, so the art department whipped one up for him. It looks a little like some of the various Luftwaffe "paper airplanes," but I don't think it was based on any specific design.

SN

Thu Mar 15, 2007 12:33 am

DaveM2 wrote:
mightyauster wrote:
A Fokker Dr I and D VII both FLOWN by the Red Baron.

The RAAF Museum at Point Cook, Melbourne, Australia, has got what has to be the largest collection of artifacts from the Red Baron and his Triplane, including a machine gun,


I think you will find Peter Jackson's Richthofen memorabilia will rival that, due to go on display at the Omaka Heritage Centre in a few weeks. It includes a cross from the Triplane fuselage and several of the Baron's silver victory cups.

how good's the provenance on all of Peter's stuff?
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