Can we let Rob Rhor come Back on WX?

[Broken-Wrench]

Aw come on Jack! What is a little forgiveness! Nobody can really remember what Rob did without looking at the archives... Come on!

[tom d. friedman]

cripes!!!! i couldn't have whipped out a can of raid bug spray any faster than scott!! robb has his quirks as we all do, i've stirred up some beehives over the years too, but robb's passion & love of aviation history is admirable. my near 91 year old dad has the best advice, keep your ears open & your a -hole shut!! robb means well but needs to tone it down, but his heart is in the right place.

[Former Member]

Sorry not very catchy I just came from the oral surgeon and I'm hiped up on percocet.

Ahh Percocet...that's some good stuff isn't it! I remember taking it when I had my wisdom teeth removed and not remembering a thing for about 3 days.

John

[k5083]

I'm glad you speak in such high regard however, I find his attributes are questionable. Rob doesn't create any more turmoil than G.
The only difference is G is a little more clandestine posting questionable political and social topics than Rob. So Rob works in a Kitchen! So what! Aren’t we all created equal. I guess it's a little easier to like someone when the have an expensive toys. Further, Rob maybe a little off center but not all of us march to the beat of the same drum. Let's let Rob back on Wix !!!! All I'm saying is let Rob back on Wix!

I think I see the source of your misunderstanding here BW. As Scott has stated, the reason he banned politics from the board was not because of the posting of "questionable political and social topics" (whatever those are) but because political threads increasingly were degenerating into personal attacks. Personal attacks were also why Rohr was booted as he often engaged in them. Bill does not.

Your misunderstanding is ironic considering that, although Scott's recent action was no doubt motivated by posts in a number of threads (including some, I admit, by myself), it was immediately preceded by an especially inappropriate personal attack post/thread authored by you and read by a few of us before Scott quickly and wisely deleted it. You seem not to realize that it was posts like your attack, and not the political views of Bill or others, that forced Scott to impose the no-politics rule, and that get the likes of Rohr and Dik voted off the island.

I'm sure there are some days in moderating this board when Scott does not know whether to laugh or scream.

August

[Jack Cook]

So Rob works in a Kitchen!

He told me he worked for the "Agency"

Rob doesn't create any more turmoil than G

Ahh Percocet...that's some good stuff isn't it!

I don't think I was ment to be a 'Drug Store Cowboy"[/quote]

[Broken-Wrench]

I'm glad you speak in such high regard however, I find his attributes are questionable. Rob doesn't create any more turmoil than G.
The only difference is G is a little more clandestine posting questionable political and social topics than Rob. So Rob works in a Kitchen! So what! Aren’t we all created equal. I guess it's a little easier to like someone when the have an expensive toys. Further, Rob maybe a little off center but not all of us march to the beat of the same drum. Let's let Rob back on Wix !!!! All I'm saying is let Rob back on Wix!

I think I see the source of your misunderstanding here BW. As Scott has stated, the reason he banned politics from the board was not because of the posting of "questionable political and social topics" (whatever those are) but because political threads increasingly were degenerating into personal attacks. Personal attacks were also why Rohr was booted as he often engaged in them. Bill does not.

Your misunderstanding is ironic considering that, although Scott's recent action was no doubt motivated by posts in a number of threads (including some, I admit, by myself), it was immediately preceded by an especially inappropriate personal attack post/thread authored by you and read by a few of us before Scott quickly and wisely deleted it. You seem not to realize that it was posts like your attack, and not the political views of Bill or others, that forced Scott to impose the no-politics rule, and that get the likes of Rohr and Dik voted off the island.


August

You just can't seem to get your facts straight! The tread was already fully involved before I became involved and you were the one who Turned it political.. Remember! I didn't attack anyone. I make no apologies..

[bdk]

Rob never bothered me personally, in fact he was fun to watch sometimes and the butt of many jokes. What was counterproductive I think was that he wanted to be the self appointed spokesman for all warbird owners with regard to the US Navy's historic aircraft policies. Maybe he was right in some of his rants, maybe not, but his way of doing things was very off-putting and drove a lot of folks underground (or away). As I also recall, a number of his assertions were debunked in the end.

Enthusiasm is great, but not when you are a bull in a china shop.

Regarding politics, I sometimes can't let the political innuendos in certain posts pass without comment, let alone the blatantly political topics. I know some of you are probably baiting me...

[airnutz]

So Rob works in a Kitchen! So what! Aren’t we all created equal.

I'm not sure who you were directing this comment toward, but since it
was a comment about Rob being a cook I guess this is for me? I know a
lot of fine cooks and I recall that Rob is no slouch as a cook or in the
ownership(IIRC) of his establishment. I was referring to a tongue-in-cheek
humour about why Steve Patterson put his aircraft up for sale. I think you
misunderstood my drift.

Why don't you tell me! Why do we keep stoking the fire?

I dunno BW, that's only a question you can answer. Why can't you just not
let him get under your skin? Agree to disagree or ignore him and move on.

You made a comment on the Homeless thread, which I see has been pulled now,
something to the effect of no one agrees with him. Well, that's
not necessarily true, it's mostly the more conservative WIXers who raise
the highest ruckus about..arguably the ONE most vocal Liberal on the WIX.
There are quite a few not so liberal...and quite a few more moderates, who
may lean more toward his opinion in one case or another, but more toward
yours in others. Some of us I'll wager can see the train wreck coming and
choose to step aside.

2 examples
My computer died in a T-storm a few months back and I infrequently am able
to post. I read farely often but at odd hours at a private recording studio,
so I have to plan my time carefully if I want to post without interruption.

#1
Bill had started the thread on the protesters and made references to the
FBI instigators of the 60's..COINTELLPRO was the program, and he was
taking the "liberal line" which is common amongst the Left. You "righties"
were having fits and I went off to dig up and post info about the the SLA,
Underground Weathermen, and some of the more radical organizations
of the Left which needed no prodding by the FBI. By the time I could make time to
post the info and my disagreement with using vandalism as
a freedom of speech...the thread was gone. I believe you and I would have been in
the same camp on that one...or closer at least.

#2
I took off work today specifically to enjoy sharing some reading I've been
doing sans computer(yes real paper books) about WW2 history. One of
the threads was Bill's about the Homeless. Was Bill being sneaky by including
the Vets as part of the statistics, I dunno but facts is facts and an inordinate
number of them are Vets. There was a program which was on 20/20 or 60
minutes recently which outlined a city program where they housed and
foodstamped the homeless...a successful program which reduced the
drain on the local and federal resources because having them off the street
with food in their gut was much cheaper than the hospital bills the were running up
by living on the street,. But we can't discuss that now, because the thread
is gone...
I guess that woulda' been more towards Bill's side of things

Sometimes the gubment doesn't need to do all the doin'. We have our very
own homeless Veteran living here behind the studio in the RV which was
last used for Talledega and our annual "beer and gun club" outings. Mike
dropped off our radar screen 6 months ago, turned up here recently had had
a stroke and a heart attack, was dicked-around by the VA regarding his
benefits and was living in his truck. He's got a good Veterans Advocate
now that one of "da boys" hooked him up with. He'll live here till his
Social Security and VA bennies come thru soon. We give him some work
he can handle sorting parts and nuts and bolts in the shop.

I was not for political discussion in the Hangar Forum, but if people of similar
ilk cannot discuss these issues in Off Topic then where can we. If every
human issue is too political how are we as a like minded folks going to
understand what's going on? Sure trouble can happen, but we're adults here.
Not every topic has to be discussed in a day. Take some time and think
some stuff thru.

Last edited by airnutz on Wed Mar 28, 2007 5:49 pm, edited 2 times in total.

[Broken-Wrench]

So Rob works in a Kitchen! So what! Aren’t we all created equal.

I'm not sure who you were directing this comment toward, but since it
was a comment about Rob being a cook I guess this is for me? I was referring to a tongue-in-cheek
humour about why Steve Patterson put his aircraft up for sale. I think you
misunderstood my drift.

I guess I misunderstood the hatchet and your flippy comment

Why don't you tell me! Why do we keep stoking the fire?

I dunno BW, that's only a question you can answer. Why can't you just not
let him get under your skin? You tell me Dr Phil?
You made a comment on the Homeless thread, which I see has been pulled now,

I said nothing Negative on that one

2 examples
My computer died in a T-storm a few months back and I infrequently am able
How does this affect me?

#1
Bill had started the thread on the protesters and made references to the
FBI instigators of the 60's..COINTELLPRO was the program, Who was chased by black helicopters??

#2
I took off work today specifically to enjoy sharing some reading I've been
doing sans computer(yes real paper books) about WW2 history. One of
the threads was Bill's about the Homeless. I didn't say anything negative towards anyone in that thread.. [b]Your thinking of BDK [/b]:roll:

What does this have to do about letting Rob back on Wix?

[bdk]

I didn't say anything negative towards anyone in that thread.. Your thinking of BDK :roll:

What'd I do now?

If I was the reason the thread was pulled, Scott, please let me know and I'll tone it down!

[airnutz]

Broken-Wrench wrote:

I guess I misunderstood the hatchet

That represented Steve and Rob "getting along" in the kitchen. As for the
"flippy comment" jab, I'll pass, you were nicer before the edit.

You tell me Dr Phil?

I said nothing Negative on that one

My bad...nothing to refer to..the threads gone

How does this affect me

Not at all I'm sure, just me whining because I take time to participate in
threads which keep disappearing. Censorship and intolerance are a bitch.

I didn't say anything negative towards anyone in that thread

Again, I can't reply one way or the other..threads gone. See former comment
on censorship and intolerance

What does this have to do about letting Rob back on Wix?

OH SH1T!..my bad, I thought this was the Kill Bill Thread!

What does this have to do about letting Rob back on Wix?

Nothing at all BW, I'd rather talk about anything than a really bad idea.
I also insidiously slipped in a commentary about public funding of the Homeless and Homeless Veterans

[Broken-Wrench]

I see your point! Where was I? ,, Oh , FREE ROB RHOR!

[k5083]

You just can't seem to get your facts straight! The tread was already fully involved before I became involved and you were the one who Turned it political.. Remember! I didn't attack anyone. I make no apologies..

I did not post at all in the thread I referred to. It consisted entirely of an initial attack post by you, then a one-emoticon response by someone else. It was followed within hours by Scott's no-politics announcement. Your memory is not that short. You, I, and some others know what I am talking about.

August

[Jack Cook]

Has I recall with a small degree of error it was "keep your d*amn Spitfire
away from Nellis and buy your own gas for a change!"
But not this from the Evergreen Break-in thread

Maybe he's just a wacked out, druged up, spoiled kid from Aspen!

I really, truly and honestly think it's time to stop this one man Bill bashing crusade. does it really have a place here

[Broken-Wrench]

I'm not going to respond to the other post he suffers from memory loss Jack, for one it was a differnt post and was simply a matter of cause and affect. The Aspen thing embodies alot of people. It was I havn't attacked anyone.. All I'm say is let Rob Rhor back on Wix ..You guys keep beating the drum..