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Fri Mar 30, 2007 8:42 pm
How about the early model B-17 protected by the USFS that keeps getting vandalized for wing attach hardware, the Lake Michigan Birds, and the Champlin TBD before it goes any further back to the elements. And the remaining B-29 and Hellcat parts at China Lake.
Fri Mar 30, 2007 9:20 pm
Don Martin wrote:SB2C in VT; B-18 in NH
Ditto the SB2C-4.......................I would also like to see the remainder of the B-24 here in vt salvaged too...........atleast the last 2 big pieces.
Fri Mar 30, 2007 9:38 pm
The B-17 E sitting up on the ridge called black gap pass in N.G.. Its a builder by todays standards. Besides I need something to be rebuilding in my golden years.
Fri Mar 30, 2007 9:43 pm
I can think of several:
1. TBD-1 BuNo 0353 (ex VT-5 during Coral Sea battle) off Miami
2. TBD-1 BuNo 1515 (VT-5, 5-T-6) off Jaluit
3. TBD-1 BuNo 0297 (ex VT-2, 2-T-7; lost with VT-5 as 5-T-7) off Jaluit
4. Any TBD found in the vicinity of Midway... there could be no more hallowed piece of naval aeronautical history
Pulling up an F2A-3 from near Midway would also allow the Navy to do the right thing (ahem) and return the Brewster 239 BW-372 to Finland, where it rightfully belongs.
And yeah, some Luftwaffe stuff would be cool, too... there's tons of stuff in the Baltic, Lake Balaton in Hungary, the Black Sea and so forth which is just waiting for an enterprising team with the funds to get it.
The TBDs should be the priority, though.
Lynn
Fri Mar 30, 2007 9:48 pm
glen miller's norseman has to be found first. on a pipe dream, i'd vote for yammamoto's betty, but that is a 1 & a billion shot..... to hot of a potato in regard to history between the u.s., the japanese, & the island nation's government where she rests.
Fri Mar 30, 2007 9:57 pm
tom d. friedman wrote:glen miller's norseman has to be found first.
I thought that was found (by accident) not too long ago by a sonar search? Or am I getting that nasty form of sometimers that affects 28-year olds?
Fri Mar 30, 2007 10:33 pm
If somebody invents a way for satellites to photograph the ocean floor with the clarity of Google Earth, either Eddie Rickenbacker's B-17D or the B-17C listed as 130 miles off Oahu.
Sat Mar 31, 2007 12:27 am
one of the westland whirwinds in the english channel
one of the ki46's in png
paul
Sat Mar 31, 2007 1:50 am
Trey Carroll wrote:Preddy's last Mustang would be rockin'. And Gentile's too.
Long since gone, I'm afraid.
Wade Meyers says:
. Rumors have circulated for years that the remains were bulldozed into a pond or ravine, but there is absolutely no evidence of this. At the October 2001 4th Fighter Group reunion in Savannah, Georgia, I personally talked to several mechanics who worked in the 4th's 45th Air Engineering "Heavy Maintenance" Squadron about this very subject, and they remembered Shangri-La well - and how she was stripped of all usable parts, but none of them recall any kind of pond or ravine or anywhere where the 45th dumped their "junk" - and these men would be the ones to know! They don't recall throwing anything away . . . their recollection is that their Sergeant in charge kept everything for possible use in aircraft repair work. Finally, I talked to Edward Tetlow, former owner of "the pond in question", and he left no doubt that " . . . there's nothing here." I'm sure the rumors will continue, though!
Sat Mar 31, 2007 5:12 am
Everything left in the Soplata collection...especially like to have the remains of the B-36! Saw the Lady of the Lake several times in 1982 and she seemed then like she would be a solid project to start out with. Any of the Doolittle Raiders or Flying Tigers in any condition would be priceless!
Sat Mar 31, 2007 8:04 am
A He 219 would be cool. And not to forget a lot of Fw 190 D's went missing over the High Venn area during the battle of the Ardennes. Maybe there are some hidden in the peat soil.
Sat Mar 31, 2007 11:27 am
Chris Brame wrote:If somebody invents a way for satellites to photograph the ocean floor with the clarity of Google Earth, either Eddie Rickenbacker's B-17D or the B-17C listed as 130 miles off Oahu.
How 'bout the 19th BG B-17D that ditched off the coast of Zamboanga,
Mindanao?
Sat Mar 31, 2007 3:47 pm
tom d. friedman wrote:glen miller's norseman has to be found first. on a pipe dream, i'd vote for yammamoto's betty, but that is a 1 & a billion shot..... to hot of a potato in regard to history between the u.s., the japanese, & the island nation's government where she rests.
I thought they found the Betty already?
Sat Mar 31, 2007 3:48 pm
I was pretty sure I remember seeing pics of the nose of it.
Sat Mar 31, 2007 4:50 pm
No surprise here... Douglas TBD-1 "Devastator" US Navy Bu No 1515 (the "deep wreck" in Jaluit lagoon, RMI)
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