Wed Oct 27, 2004 12:28 am
Well I could, but they'd probably want some other deco to replace it with..
Wed Oct 27, 2004 1:03 am
Well I could, but they'd probably want some other deco to replace it with..
Not a problem...how about a PV-1 vertical stab & rudder?
Wed Oct 27, 2004 9:24 am
First, we'll need to identify it. I'll photograph it here pretty soon..Can't you use a KC-97 tail on the B-29?
Wed Oct 27, 2004 10:46 am
Blasphemy!B29Gunner wrote:Not a problem...how about a PV-1 vertical stab & rudder?
How can you trade one warbird carcass for another? Save them all!!!!! 
Send them postage collect to the Kernel. 
Wed Oct 27, 2004 5:11 pm
I think they know nothing about airplanes because to quote my flame about this stupid show:
"The guys on the show are all your average backwards cap, goateed, tatooed, pot smoker, "hey dude" types".
John
"The guys on the show are all your average backwards cap, goateed, tatooed, pot smoker, "hey dude" types".
John
Wed Oct 27, 2004 6:18 pm
JohnH wrote:"The guys on the show are all your average backwards cap, goateed, tatooed, pot smoker, "hey dude" types".
You mean they look kinda like this:
Wed Oct 27, 2004 10:37 pm
Oh, Rob, Do I have to break out the new security measures and Cloaking Device?
Thu Oct 28, 2004 1:05 am
You mean they look kinda like this
Hey, isn't that...
Thu Oct 28, 2004 1:08 am
Anonymous wrote:Can't you use a KC-97 tail on the B-29?
B-50/KC-97 had a larger tail (among other things!)
Thu Oct 28, 2004 10:52 pm
Bring it on Nor' Easter!Col. Rohr wrote:I will get you some how some way for that
Wing Nuts
Thu Oct 28, 2004 11:14 pm
I've got a left verticle stab off our B-25 in my garage. Comes complete with 42nd BG markings. Maybe I'll make a skateboard out of it?
Thu Oct 28, 2004 11:47 pm
"The guys on the show are all your average backwards cap, goateed, tatooed, pot smoker, "hey dude" types".
You mean they look kinda like this
You mean: these guys actually work on planes, and fly 'em too?
I thought I saw a plane flying erratic over town last night...
Propeller blades for mercury engine
Fri Oct 29, 2004 2:19 pm
Gentlemen,
I visited this site to investigate why so many people viewed the subject matter. Prop blades is a boring subject. But I thought you may find interesting my story of what some people do with prop blades.
Back in the late 1970's, I scoured the countryside of Manitoba, which at the time, had the second largest aircraft graveyard in the world--next to the SWPA. After WWII, RCAF training aircraft were sold surplus from the various Commonweatlh Air Training Plan bases in Manitoba. These included Bolingbrokes, Lysanders, Battles, Ansons, Fleet Forts, and Oxford airraft.
In 1974, I joined the newly formed Western Canada Avaition Museum (WCAM), and at this juncture, learned of what occurred in 1945/46 when the government sold of all surplus RCAF aircraft across Canada and in particular, Manitoba.
I assisted the late Ormond Haydon-Baillie recover three of the 23 Mercury engines he shipped to the UK with three Bolingbrokes, for eventual restoration. After Ormond left for the UK, I decided to find out where he obtained the other 20 Merury engines. So, in my spare time, I traveled across the province to various defunct CATP bases and spoke to local farmers who knew people who purchased these surplus aircraft. Thus, I began my search for WWII RCAF material.
During one of my countryside visits in 1979-80, I visited a farm and found a SCAVENGER--people who scour the countryside buying surplus military aircraft to dismember and sell to scrap metal dealers in Winnipeg. At the time, I had aleady located some 40 Bolingbrokes, several gutted Lysander fuselage, and a plethora of parts from various surplused aircraft that farmers bought and scrapped themselves.
At this one farm, I found a scavenger cutting up a Bolingbroke into manageable pieces for loading on to two-ton truck. I took photos of the scene and destruction. I spoke with the farmer, and he replied having previously sold the two Mercury engines from the Bolly, to Ormond Haydon-Baillie. Apparently Ormond attempted to obtain the propeller blades for next to nothing, and the angry farmer chased Ormond off the premises.
The farmer took me to his barn and showed me the prop blades standing in a corner. He offered to donate them to the WCAM if they would haul away the Bolingbroke wings. Bolly wings have steel-capped spars which the scavenger knew, and had no intention of spending the time to separate the aluminium from the steel. Also, the scrap metal dealers in Winnipeg were well aware of the steel-capped spars, and wanted both metals separated before buying anything.
I returned to the WCAM and explained the farmer's offer to donate the Mercury propeller blades if the WCAM would haul away the Bolly wings, either to the museum or to any "nuisance grounds"--rural term for the local garbage dump.
The WCAM director refused the offer. Originally developed as a "bush plane" museum, he was fed up with all the military material I hauled to the museum, and wanted no further involvement with anything military--even the Mercury prop blades. So this episode lapsed and was forgotten.
Back in 1991, I received several inquirys from museum's in Canada for Merury engine propeller blades. I visited the farmer, who previously had the prop blades in his barn, and learned he sold them. A local fellow bought the blades for $20.00 each. He used a lathe to cut-down and sculpture sections into lamp stands to sell. So that is where some of the Bolingbroke and Battle propeller blades eventually ended up--as part of lamp stands.
I understand the going price for a set of Mercury engine propeller blades is currently around the $7,000 to $10,000 dollar mark.
Norman Malayney
I visited this site to investigate why so many people viewed the subject matter. Prop blades is a boring subject. But I thought you may find interesting my story of what some people do with prop blades.
Back in the late 1970's, I scoured the countryside of Manitoba, which at the time, had the second largest aircraft graveyard in the world--next to the SWPA. After WWII, RCAF training aircraft were sold surplus from the various Commonweatlh Air Training Plan bases in Manitoba. These included Bolingbrokes, Lysanders, Battles, Ansons, Fleet Forts, and Oxford airraft.
In 1974, I joined the newly formed Western Canada Avaition Museum (WCAM), and at this juncture, learned of what occurred in 1945/46 when the government sold of all surplus RCAF aircraft across Canada and in particular, Manitoba.
I assisted the late Ormond Haydon-Baillie recover three of the 23 Mercury engines he shipped to the UK with three Bolingbrokes, for eventual restoration. After Ormond left for the UK, I decided to find out where he obtained the other 20 Merury engines. So, in my spare time, I traveled across the province to various defunct CATP bases and spoke to local farmers who knew people who purchased these surplus aircraft. Thus, I began my search for WWII RCAF material.
During one of my countryside visits in 1979-80, I visited a farm and found a SCAVENGER--people who scour the countryside buying surplus military aircraft to dismember and sell to scrap metal dealers in Winnipeg. At the time, I had aleady located some 40 Bolingbrokes, several gutted Lysander fuselage, and a plethora of parts from various surplused aircraft that farmers bought and scrapped themselves.
At this one farm, I found a scavenger cutting up a Bolingbroke into manageable pieces for loading on to two-ton truck. I took photos of the scene and destruction. I spoke with the farmer, and he replied having previously sold the two Mercury engines from the Bolly, to Ormond Haydon-Baillie. Apparently Ormond attempted to obtain the propeller blades for next to nothing, and the angry farmer chased Ormond off the premises.
The farmer took me to his barn and showed me the prop blades standing in a corner. He offered to donate them to the WCAM if they would haul away the Bolingbroke wings. Bolly wings have steel-capped spars which the scavenger knew, and had no intention of spending the time to separate the aluminium from the steel. Also, the scrap metal dealers in Winnipeg were well aware of the steel-capped spars, and wanted both metals separated before buying anything.
I returned to the WCAM and explained the farmer's offer to donate the Mercury propeller blades if the WCAM would haul away the Bolly wings, either to the museum or to any "nuisance grounds"--rural term for the local garbage dump.
The WCAM director refused the offer. Originally developed as a "bush plane" museum, he was fed up with all the military material I hauled to the museum, and wanted no further involvement with anything military--even the Mercury prop blades. So this episode lapsed and was forgotten.
Back in 1991, I received several inquirys from museum's in Canada for Merury engine propeller blades. I visited the farmer, who previously had the prop blades in his barn, and learned he sold them. A local fellow bought the blades for $20.00 each. He used a lathe to cut-down and sculpture sections into lamp stands to sell. So that is where some of the Bolingbroke and Battle propeller blades eventually ended up--as part of lamp stands.
I understand the going price for a set of Mercury engine propeller blades is currently around the $7,000 to $10,000 dollar mark.
Norman Malayney