Beijing Aeronautical Institute Museum P61

RickH · **Posted:** Sat May 12, 2007 6:55 am

Amen , Dave. For any WWII type aircraft to be displayed outside in this day and age is nearly criminal. I consider it willful destruction of govt property.

Lackland AFB comes to mind,...F-82, P-47, P-51H, real P-63 Pinball. Wonder who controls those, hmmm......

Shay · **Posted:** Sat May 12, 2007 8:50 am

RickH wrote:

Lackland AFB comes to mind,...F-82, P-47, P-51H, real P-63 Pinball. Wonder who controls those, hmmm......

NMUSAF....but i'm sure you already knew that :wink:

http://warbirdinformationexchange.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=9128&highlight=lackland

Shay
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Warbird Mechanic · **Posted:** Sat May 12, 2007 11:36 am

Its true, those planes are cataloged through our Museum in Dayton, although Lackland AFB is actually in charge of maintaining them since they are on loan. Our Museum sends a crew out there each year to inspect these planes. They don't look all that bad from those photos. If our museum sees they are not being properly cared for then they will come back to our museum and are placed in storage out of public view. At least the climate out at Lackland is much more dry than it is here in Ohio. Because of the dryer climate, its actually more ideal to have aircraft sit outside under those conditions. The planes in China look like they are badly weathered and should be placed inside a climate controlled environment.

Jim

Pat Carry · **Posted:** Sat May 12, 2007 12:30 pm

I wonder how long till the P-61 just falls apart?

frankspeaks · **Joined:** Fri Jan 13, 2006 11:52 pm **Posts:** 160

Pat Carry wrote:

I wonder how long till the P-61 just falls apart?

I'm guessing that they will simply take parts off the other one that they have stored and keep it complete with those ( I think it's the one previously 4sale in TAP ) I've seen pics of it, they are floating atround the web somewhere....

Tom Crawford · **Posted:** Sat May 12, 2007 7:44 pm

Does anyone have a google earth address for this "Aeronautical Institute".
I've been looking but my eyes are about to give out...Tom

Steve · **Posted:** Sat May 12, 2007 8:20 pm

try
39'58'51.28N
116'20'40.76E

Tom Crawford · **Posted:** Sat May 12, 2007 8:50 pm

Right on the money...thanks Steve. I wonder if they have a museum like our NASM or Britain's Imperial War Museum where they would likely restore and display these aircraft..probably not..Tom

Elwyn · **Posted:** Sat May 12, 2007 10:02 pm

Did The P-61 have a bomb bay or are these access doors for the 20MM cannon?

DaveM2 · **Posted:** Sat May 12, 2007 11:20 pm

What other one do they have stored? If they have another it has eluded all researchers so far, and I would be amazed to see photos of it, so your task is to come up with the link, should you choose to accept it :wink:

Dave

RickH · **Posted:** Sun May 13, 2007 7:27 am

No bombbay Elwinn. The P-61 was strictly a fighter. It had amazing capabilities for its size.

mustangdriver · **Posted:** Sun May 13, 2007 7:43 am

DaveM2 wrote:

Take a look in your own back yard before slamming another museum about how they treat exhibits..how long did the unique warbirds waste away along the fence line at NAS Willow Grove for example? Happens all over :shock:

Dave

Your right it did happen, but for the most part does not go on any more(there are a few cases still) This is their main museum!

Django · **Posted:** Sun May 13, 2007 9:14 am

That would be a 5th P-61 that exists? The only pics I've ever come across are of this particular one...

Rob Mears · **Posted:** Sun May 13, 2007 10:27 am

What are the chances of finding a serial number for this aircraft, to determine how and when it might have ended up with the Chinese?

Eric Friedebach · **Posted:** Sun May 13, 2007 10:49 am

Now *that* is a road trip, Orvis!

Thanks for posting those.

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