Warbird Information Exchange

Anyone know the ID of these Catalina Parts out on the "Back 40" at the Pima Air and Space Museum?


I’m assuming they will be utilized with this airframe to complete a Catalina display


Anyone know how what they are missing to put together a PBY for display?
TIA

The red rear hull is N322FA as marked. The forward hull in the first picture is N10609. The tail unit next to it is not from the same airframe, at least I think not from a study of other photos I have seen.

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David Legg
Editor, The Catalina News
The Catalina Society
Author: Consolidated PBY Catalina - The Peacetime Record

Its so sad to see the PBY in this kind of shape. Somewhere I have photos of it when it stopped by the Planes Of Fame East on its way out to California.

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Dan Johnson

Thanks David, Do you know if they have a set of wings?

http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief2.asp?ev_ ... 270&akey=1

Canadian Vickers PBV-1A (OA-10A) “Canso A/Catalina” (California Water Bomber”) (CV-560)(USN 68013)(USAAF 44-34049)(CF-GLX, C-FGLX, N322FA)(California Fire Attack) The first photo of the engines was taken on 03/10/04. The Next 5 were taken 04/06/04. Showing some of the parts in addition to the fuselage.








The next two photos are of the two hulls shown in the first photo of this topic. They were taken 10/07/04




The last photo was taken 03/03/06 of another fuselage section at Pima.


bill word

Further to my earlier posting about the pale grey hull of N10609 on what appear to be tractor tyres, I now retract my comment that the detached rear hull section is probably not from the same airframe. A closer study of other photos I have in my collection show that there are some faint markings still just visible on the Pima tail relic that correspond to markings on N10609 when it was more complete. So the bit of rear hull IS from N10609. The dark grey hull section shown in the latest set of photos is not Sad Sack but is one of the four ex-RCAF Canso A amphibians that were stored for years on a farm in Ontario by George Ventress and of which Sad Sack was one. The hull now at Pima is the one that was stored for some years in a barn at Geneseo, NY before going to Pima much more recently. Its RCAF i/d is not known but is possibly either 9829 or 9839. (Sad Sack was 11029 and the 4th Ventress Canso was 9825, now with Harold Carlaw at Campbellford, Ont.). The photo at Pima shows where the main u/c has been removed and plated over.

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David Legg
Editor, The Catalina News
The Catalina Society
Author: Consolidated PBY Catalina - The Peacetime Record

322 Fire Attack got itself looking like that after a bad water pickup about ten years ago. Seems like I heard from one of the PBY@yahoo bunch that all this wreckage and partial airframes were being gathered to build a static display. Comments? David or Matt?
David, isn't Sad Sack the houseboat conversion that was used for the new forward section of Ben Kalka's N84857?
If you'd like to see N322FA in happier times, check it out on a.net.

Doug Ratchford, 'Canso42'

David,
Was N10609 the hull that was first spotted travelling down the Interstate by truck that had us all in a dither at PBY@yahoo over its identity? If so what is it's background?

Doug.

I remember seeing this bird on the ramp in a couple of So.Cal. airports and then a couple months later reading of it's demise. Shame.

To answer the questions posted a couple of items back, the nose of Sad Sack was indeed used on N84857 at Skagit County. The centre section, or what's left of it, is with Catalina Aero at Nanaimo on Vancouver Island (along with the complete C-FNJB). And, based on what is now known, N10609 was the hull that was seen road-running.

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David Legg
Editor, The Catalina News
The Catalina Society
Author: Consolidated PBY Catalina - The Peacetime Record