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Mr Edwards got enough $$$$$ to build a HUGE mansion. Maybe I should channel dead people like he did.

Bill, you're right, I'd bet at most the plantiffs got maybe 40%.

You might bet anything, but what are the real figures from these cases. By the way, would you want an attourney that was not very sucessful and could only afford a shack? How about a doctor or an investment broker who drives a used Kia? If he took the case on contingincy, he probably was entitled to 30 to 50 %. I will ask a around on this, my son is going into law school, my first girl friend is from a family of doctors, another girl friend is a doctor, and another is a plaintiff attourney like John Edwards. How much would the plaintiffs have gotten on their own without a lawyer, and are they satisfied?

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I refuse to support any left wing political, "I Hate America", or as Rush says "drive by media", limosine liberals, I think you know who I mean, by supporting them with any of my hard earned money!

"How about a doctor or an investment broker who drives a used Kia?"

I have an 8 year old car.....

I hate Michael Moore! He's nothing more then a slob that will do anything to take a shot at America. And he tries to justify the acts of criminals?

I would not be surprised if he is on the top ten list of the most wanted terrorists.

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I phoned my son who is about to start law school in a few weeks and who keeps up with politics more than me. He says he read a book by John Edwards that discussed 4 of his larger cases. He says John took all of them on contingincy, clients were not wealthly, and that he recieved 1/3 of the settlement, certainly not most of the money and the client getting little. Also that the 1/3 fee is pretty standard in such cases. Now I don't know about all the acounting, for instance did fees for expert witnesses come out before the 30% or was it included in the fee? In any event I have not heard of any complaints by the clients, have you ?

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Boy, that could be a good day. I see lower everyday of the week
The other day I worked a medicaid payment for a $75,000 bill for heart surgery, ICU, step down unit (10-14 day stay)
plus incidentals like lab work and medicine ect. The check was for $12,000
I hope they can afford to keep me around for a while

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Attorney fees are frequently set by state law. 1/3 is typical for many types of cases.

I saw it and it made me very scared of going to the US!

We have a health system here in Holland where you can choose between about 8 insurers. Mine costs about 90 EUR per month, which is average. When you have a low salary you can get part of it back. If I saw off my finger or break a leg it won't cost me anything. Included are for example the dentist, hospital transportation, fysio...
My sister went to school in the UK and I was very surprised to hear from her that she did not have to pay a penny to go to the doctor or the hospital.

When I read some of the reactions, like the one from oscardeuce "I would not want to be treated anywhere else in the world." Where does that come from?
A lot of people from my country go on holiday to Turkey and say that medical care is less there, but still, they won't let you choose which finger to keep!
I mostly go to France on my holidays and had no problem there, one time I had an ear infection and had to get some penicillin. I can only remember that I couldn't swim because of it, not what or if I had to pay for it.
Please oscardeuce come to my country, visit the University Medical Center Utrecht and I think you will be amazed that we don't use medieval methods and are civilized. We might even use some equipment that you've never seen before.

Oh and when I want a nasal spray or some 500 mg paracetamol I can go to the local supermarket, they have a special desk with some simple medications and it will only cost a few Euro's.

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Well, it sounds like there is at least one good thing about the movie. Perhaps the federal government should sponsor showing showing the movie for free in Mexico

Ryan

Why would I prefer treatment in the US?

I've worked with foreign med school grads, and in my experience they are at best only as good as an average grad from an American med school. That includes 'foreign' grads of American med schools.

I saw an abnormality in my Dad's throat a few years ago.Within 2 weeks, he had surgery, and was to start radiation. Many countries have 6week-1 year waits for the same services. Dad would be dead today as he had a very aggressive cancer, and even a 1 month delay could have killed him.
As to you paracetamol, which is tylenol if I remember, we get it cheap here at Wallmart, Kmart, etc.
Again I work the front lines in Emergency Medicine, I am a faculty member of the local medical school.I have worked in private group practice, for a hospital, and for an HMO.

Socialized health care is not free, taxes are used, and boy will taxes go up if we get it in the USA.

Oh that all sounds very logical to me oscardeuce.
America has everything the best, and everywhere else they just put you on a waiting list to die.

Tylenol is just a brand name for paracetamol, Panadol is sold here for example. I expected you to know that, sorry.

So, now you pay your private health insurance every month, but if it would be socialized and you would pay the same amount to the government every month then taxes would go up because... why? :S
But I understand, you have fear, fear against socialized medicine. Fear losing income to tax. It was explained in the movie...

A socialized health care system doesn't have to mean that you are forced to use it. It will still be a free country?

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This is all over the counter stuff in the US as well.



I hear the sound of a fish being reeled in..... "It was explained in the movie!" America is exactly like you see in the movies. Gangsters with black hats, pinstripe suits, and Thompson submachine guns...

In my experience government is absolutely the least efficient method of getting something done. There is no incentive in government to control waste. Insurance companies may not be the greatest, but they do have an incentive to control waste.

Rather than having my wages taken from me forcibly and put into a pool for services I may not need or want, I have choices. Government taxation removes choices. You get whatever "they" want you to have. "They" make decisions based upon influences from campaign contributors and others that may not really have the constituent's best interests in mind.

Just because you are OK with your government babysitting you does not mean that I am OK with my government doing the same. Our countries have different customs and one of ours is to not implicitly trust government as a great all knowing entity for our well being.

I am happy that you are happy with your country's health care system. I am not happy with mine, but I really don't want yours' either!

source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paracetamol

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"you would pay the same amount to the government every month then taxes would go up because... why? "

We all know how efficient the government is with OPM ( other peoples' money). I would not pay the same amount, I would bet I would pay MORE due to the inefficiencies in gov't services.

We had the Boston tea Party over the Stamp Act which was a 0.5% tax.
Now, I pay
6.5 % sales tax
Property tax
Income tax, federal state and local
Medicare/FICA tax
gasoline tax
there was even a "death tax" currently on hold

I'd bet today, the Boston Tea party would be stopped by the EPA, and the participant sued by the ACLU for defamation of character of Native Americans.

The IRS is already after the person who caught Bond's record breaking home run ball.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=a ... &type=lgns

Mrs. Clinton has already come out saying the income tax is a way to enforce fairness.

As to rationing of healthcare under socialized systems. It happens, no doubt. There are good people working in other countries. by the way mennie, do you work in health care?

The USA was not founded to be a Socialist/Communist State, but we sure are there. In fact the Constitution should LIMIT federal power, no increase it. The States were supposed to have the power ( the original way of appointing US Senators was in the hands of the State Houses). Now it is all about how much money thay can spend and give away. If there is socialized health care in the US, it should be through the States, and not the feds. That would be more in line with the constitution, but again against the ideals of the founding fathers.