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Is number 12 a Allison V-1710 from a P-38? I think it might be....How about the rest of the list above does it look correct? If we change number 12 will that fix it?


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Just to be pedantic...

De Havilland isn't one word, it's two and should really be de Havilland, even at the start of a line, and it's not a Gypsy Queen, it's a Gipsy Queen.


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Good man, we want corrections......

Ok I think this is where we are at this point


1... Lambert R-266
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2... Rolls Royce Model 250-C28
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3... LeRhone Rotary C-9 80HP
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4... P&W R-4360 Spare for the Goose
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5... Rolls Royce Griffon 57
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6... Continental R-766
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7... Continental R-670 aircraft (220 hp.)
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8... Allison J-33
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9... Curtiss OX-5
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10.. Nelson H-59 two-cycle engine, 40 horsepower
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11.. DB-605 (ME-109G)
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12.. Allison V-1710-133
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13.. P&W J58 - JT-11D-20K Turbojet
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14.. F100-PW-100 Turbofan
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15.. de Havilland Goblin Mk.3
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16.. de Havilland Gipsy Queen 70 Mk2
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17.. Allison V-1710-111
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18.. Allison V-1710-111
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19.. Wright R-760E-2 Whirlwind
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20..Salmson
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21.. Curtiss OX-5 converted to marine use
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22.. Health-Henderson Model B-4
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23.. Lycoming O-32024) R-2360
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24..P&W R-4360 Wasp Major cut-away
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25.. JT-11D-20K
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OK, how about this one:

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Maybe easy, maybe not :D

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Ah, #1 is a Lambert, I should have known, I've listened to them blow head gaskets... Still, the interesting and much rarer part of that one is the one bladed prop.

#20, there's no such thing as a Le Blone, there's Le Rhone, or Leblond, but that engine is niether. It sure looks like a Salmson of some sort. But I did find this googling to make sure: http://www.cmrsj52.ca/sourires.htm (non aviation)

#21, don't see any Scintilla mag, looks like a marine conversion with a distributor ignition.


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6... Continental W-670 (tank) (220 hp.) This still says "JACOBS" on the rocker box cover. It is an R-766. Oops! R-755 like I said in my post on page 1... Sorry, I was a brain dead I guess. :oops:

12.. ? Still an Allison, like #17 & #18

19.. Wright R-760 Whirlaway "Whirlwind" not Whirlaway

24...? Still an R-4360


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You screwed it up with that one bladed prop picture. I probably won't be able to win anymore bar room bets about that anymore. Its' been a winner for many years. So much beer to drink, so little time.


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20...salmson it is, do we have the rest right? the one bladed prop is to strange, anyone know anything about that? I didn't notice that until you all pointed it out, I just thought it was cut for display....

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Yes as BDK states...#6 is indeed a Jacobs. It is very likely it is an L4 family R-755. Could be an R755-9 of 245HP as used in useless 78's. With out seeing the exhaust ports it has a chance of also being an L6 or R915 as used in Avro Ansons. L6's have a single stud ex port and L4's have a 3 stud flange. It is not likely it is a an L5 R830. These horrible motors I do not believe ever received internal rocker lube and as such had Alemite or Zerk fittings on rockers shafts. In any event it is a Jacobs engine from Pottstown PA ( I do not think the design was license built.

#19 is a Wright Aeronautical J6-7 family Whirlwind. Seeing no obvious propeller control on front case under collector it is very likely an R760-8 from a Naval N3N-3 (very nearly the only U.S. WWII application for this powerplant) of 235HP. It could be a civil version R760ET. One will notice the complete lack of rocker scavenging....very suceptible to locking and catastrophic failure. But no other engine in it's horspower range was any smoother or powerful. Wonderful powerplants.


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Chris,

Is that the Chrysler inverted V16 that was designed to replace the radial on the P-47? (XP47H)

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Here are my 2 cents afterall: :wink:

2. Rolls-Royce 250-C28 from a Bell Jet Ranger
3. LeRhone C9-J Rotary from a Nieuport
4. P&W R-4360 Wasp Major (Hughes H4, F2-G, B-36 & B-50)
12. Allison V-1710-133 (P-38 counterclockwise rotation ? )
13. J58 - JT-11D-20K Turbojet as on the SR-71
14. P&W F100-100 Turbofan (F-15) - as tagged by the museum
15. deHavilland Goblin Mk.3 (Vampire)
16. deHavilland Gipsy Queen 70, Mk.2
17-18. Allison V-1710-111 (P-38 the clokwise rotation one or the other way around with the -133 ? )
19. Wright R-760-E2 Whirlwind (CW-15)
20. Indeed a French Salmson engine
24. P&W R-4360 Wasp Major cut-away
25. Again a JT-11D-20K near the SR-71.

By the way, if anyone has the time, my engines page has some blanks and probably some errors as well. You can email me with corrections if you feel like it !

http://www.passion-aviation.qc.ca/engines.htm

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#3 the LeRhone I believe is an 80HP. The 110HP had the pushrod in back as well as the intake pipe. This 80 hp was likely built by Union Switch and Signal in Swissvale PA.


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Is that the Chrysler inverted V16 that was designed to replace the radial on the P-47? (XP47H)

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That's the one, the XI-2220 - at the Chrysler Museum. Research from this monster led to the Chrysler Hemi.

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Good man, we want corrections......

Ok I think this is where we are at this point




It's still a Gipsy Queen.


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