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You big fibber - you've got "Captive Luftwaffe".


You've got a good memory Rob, I'd forgotten about that one.

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Have you got the Zeppelin one, Geoff?


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A collection of Putnam books just isn't complete without one, Mike.

Crafty things those Zeppelins.


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Robbo wrote:
Crafty things those Zeppelins.


True, but it takes forever to loop them. :shock:

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Robbo wrote:
A collection of Putnam books just isn't complete without one, Mike.

Crafty things those Zeppelins.


Just get on posting some pictures from Hendon today. :butthead: :butthead: :butthead: :butthead: :butthead: :butthead: :butthead: :butthead: :butthead: :butthead: :butthead: :butthead: :butthead: :butthead: :butthead: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink:


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Andy in Beds wrote:
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A collection of Putnam books just isn't complete without one, Mike.

Crafty things those Zeppelins.


Just get on posting some pictures from Hendon today. :butthead: :butthead: :butthead: :butthead: :butthead: :butthead: :butthead: :butthead: :butthead: :butthead: :butthead: :butthead: :butthead: :butthead: :butthead: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink:

What makes you think I took any?


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Robbo wrote:
What makes you think I took any?


Well, you spent enough time posing about the place getting in the way of decent, normal folk all day while trying to look intelligent. I assumed from that apparent flurry of activity that you were doing something creative. Maybe I was wrong and you're just a masochis who enjoys lugging heavy bags abut all day--nothing surprises me about peoples preferences and orientations anymore.
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Andy, I didn't have a camera bag with me today, you must've been distracted thinking about Mike buying that book on balloons.

I didn't take very many photos - I've already got photos of most of the dark recesses of Hendon. I'm sure that Mike can fill in the gaps.

Here are a few shots from earlier on (sorry dial-up users):

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Robbo,
Very nice.
thanks for posting.
Mike, over to you????
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Great photo's Robbo. If I didn't know any better I would have thought that they had finally paid the electricity bill and had decent lighting in the place, however, I know that the results of your pics are more to do with your skills as a photographer than the efforts of the bods at Hendon to throw light on the situation. :D


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Thanks for the compliment, but there's no black art to taking photos in the RAFM. Take a tripod, select a small aperture to get a nice depth of field, take your time and either use a cable release or the self timer. The close-up of the Halifax took 20 seconds, so don't be scared of taking your time. The lighting in there's a horrible colour, but you can get rid of the worst of the effects in photoshop (unless you're crap with colours like me).

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Robbo,

Ditto on the great pictures. On my only trip across the pond, I got to spend a Saturday afternoon at Hendon. The pictures came back with horrible green casts (I was using daylight print film at the time). Since then, I stumbled on your "dark museum" technique in 2002 while shooting in the WWII Gallery of the Air Force Museum at Dayton and the now temporarily closed Marine Air Ground Museum at Quantico. Tungsten slide film worked very well at those locations. Since then I've found mixed results at Pennsacola (mixed artificial and sun light), other galleries at Dayton (different galleries/exhibits seem to have different light sources) and the new NASM Udvaar-Hazy site (alot of natural light leaks in). I've been working on some trial and error techniques to discover what is best at each place. I hope to get back to London again sometime, do you have a film recommendation for Hendon you might share? Is the lighting predominately tungsten, flourescent, floodlights?


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Jeff, I use a digital camera (Canon 10D), so I've not got any film recommendations I'm afraid.

The lighting in the RAFM is predominantly tungsten, if the effect is really bad I tend to take a custom white balance from some white paper. I just snapped these photos using the tungsten white balance on the camera and then adjusted the colour afterwards. It doesn't help that I'm red/green colourblind, so I've no idea whether the final result really looks right to everyone else.

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Mike wrote:
Have you got the Zeppelin one, Geoff?


I did have, but it was 'bagged' by a BE2c from Joyce Green, which is only a little way off.

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Robbo wrote:
I'm sure that Mike can fill in the gaps.

He will if it's ever possible to recover the images from his failed CF card. :cry:


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