CAF P-82 Press Release
Thu Oct 04, 2007 9:55 pm
The following was sent to all CAF members today around 5pm:
VENUE SET FOR P-82 LAW SUIT
MIDLAND, TEXAS (Oct. 3, 2007) – The Commemorative Air Force (CAF) was notified Sept. 19, 2007, that the U.S. District Court, Southern District of Ohio has set venue in Dayton, Ohio, for the court case concerning ownership of the CAF’s P-82. The venue decision is the result of a suit filed in April 2006 to affirm ownership of the rare P-82 fighter.
According to the CAF’s attorney, Garry L. Montanari of California, the trial is set for Oct. 6, 2008.
The P-82, easily recognizable because of its two fuselages, was developed in 1943 as a long-range fighter to fly bomber escort missions over the Pacific. On the premise that two P-51 Mustangs should be twice as good as one, North American used two lengthened P-51H fuselages and modified port and starboard wing halves, joined by a new center wing and tailplane. The Twin Mustang was powered by two 8,860 horsepower Allison V-1650 engines. This configuration provided a twin-engined aircraft with a cockpit each for the pilot (left) and the radar operator (right), and a large fuel capacity, giving a maximum range of 2,400 miles. A total of 273 P-82s were built for the Air Force; in 2002, “Gallant Warrior” listed five remaining P-82 aircraft.
The Commemorative Air Force, headquartered in Midland, Texas, is an educational, patriotic nonprofit organization. For more information, contact Kay Crites, public relations director for the CAF, at (432) 563-1000, ext. 2231.
Brig. Gen. “Tex” Hill has recently been released from the hospital and is at home under the care of doctors. His family has gathered; no visitors are being allowed. As we know many of you are concerned, we will continue to keep you up to date on Gen. Hill.
Also, Please everyone pray for Tex and his family...
VENUE SET FOR P-82 LAW SUIT
MIDLAND, TEXAS (Oct. 3, 2007) – The Commemorative Air Force (CAF) was notified Sept. 19, 2007, that the U.S. District Court, Southern District of Ohio has set venue in Dayton, Ohio, for the court case concerning ownership of the CAF’s P-82. The venue decision is the result of a suit filed in April 2006 to affirm ownership of the rare P-82 fighter.
According to the CAF’s attorney, Garry L. Montanari of California, the trial is set for Oct. 6, 2008.
The P-82, easily recognizable because of its two fuselages, was developed in 1943 as a long-range fighter to fly bomber escort missions over the Pacific. On the premise that two P-51 Mustangs should be twice as good as one, North American used two lengthened P-51H fuselages and modified port and starboard wing halves, joined by a new center wing and tailplane. The Twin Mustang was powered by two 8,860 horsepower Allison V-1650 engines. This configuration provided a twin-engined aircraft with a cockpit each for the pilot (left) and the radar operator (right), and a large fuel capacity, giving a maximum range of 2,400 miles. A total of 273 P-82s were built for the Air Force; in 2002, “Gallant Warrior” listed five remaining P-82 aircraft.
The Commemorative Air Force, headquartered in Midland, Texas, is an educational, patriotic nonprofit organization. For more information, contact Kay Crites, public relations director for the CAF, at (432) 563-1000, ext. 2231.
Brig. Gen. “Tex” Hill has recently been released from the hospital and is at home under the care of doctors. His family has gathered; no visitors are being allowed. As we know many of you are concerned, we will continue to keep you up to date on Gen. Hill.
Also, Please everyone pray for Tex and his family...
WOW! "two 8,860 horsepower Allison V-1650 engines"
Thu Oct 04, 2007 10:14 pm
no wonder everyone wants one....GO TEX! 
Thu Oct 04, 2007 10:37 pm
ME109ME109 wrote:
WHERE CAN I GET ME ONE OF THEM 8,860 horsepower Allison engines?
The Twin Mustang was powered by two 8,860 horsepower Allison V-1650 engines. This configuration provided a twin-engined aircraft with a cockpit each for the pilot (left) and the radar operator (right), and a large fuel capacity, giving a maximum range of 2,400 miles. A total of 273 P-82s were built for the Air Force; in 2002, “Gallant Warrior” listed five remaining P-82 aircraft.
WHERE CAN I GET ME ONE OF THEM 8,860 horsepower Allison engines?
Thu Oct 04, 2007 10:46 pm
They built em especially for the '82
Thu Oct 04, 2007 11:31 pm
More like @ 1600hp per side.
Fri Oct 05, 2007 12:33 am
EDowning wrote:ME109ME109 wrote:The Twin Mustang was powered by two 8,860 horsepower Allison V-1650 engines. This configuration provided a twin-engined aircraft with a cockpit each for the pilot (left) and the radar operator (right), and a large fuel capacity, giving a maximum range of 2,400 miles. A total of 273 P-82s were built for the Air Force; in 2002, “Gallant Warrior” listed five remaining P-82 aircraft.
WHERE CAN I GET ME ONE OF THEM 8,860 horsepower Allison engines?
Whew...8,860
There for a moment I thought I'd pizzled my lifes dreams
away coveting an H-24 Napier Sabre that reached a test hp of 3850...
Gonna go take my bp meds now....
Fri Oct 05, 2007 6:26 am
Well, not to be nitpicky, but this P-82 has those stinkin' Merlins on it...not the Allisons. 
Gary
Gary
P-82
Fri Oct 05, 2007 7:15 am
Gary, are you sure? I never even heard of an 82 with Merlins. Whats the scoop? Why is it a P and not an F, is it photo recon? I took a look at it, my Son David picked it out and was intrigued, but I didn't get too close as unlike Gary I do not regard rattlesnakes as pets.
Last edited by Bill Greenwood on Fri Oct 05, 2007 8:00 am, edited 1 time in total.
Fri Oct 05, 2007 7:15 am
Sorry Gary the one down the street has stinkin' Allisons on it
Thanks Mike
Thanks Mike
Re: P-82
Fri Oct 05, 2007 8:45 am
It was a P before 1947, but afterwards became F like all other P-for-pursuit fighters then. IIRC, the prototype had Merlins, & production a/c switched to Allisons of near 2000 horses. I'm thinking that this one should have Allisons in it.
Bill Greenwood wrote:Gary, are you sure? I never even heard of an 82 with Merlins. Whats the scoop? Why is it a P and not an F, is it photo recon? I took a look at it, my Son David picked it out and was intrigued, but I didn't get too close as unlike Gary I do not regard rattlesnakes as pets.
Re: P-82
Fri Oct 05, 2007 8:46 am
Oops, sorry, I just saw this question was addressed to gary.
Bill Greenwood wrote:Gary, are you sure? I never even heard of an 82 with Merlins. Whats the scoop? Why is it a P and not an F, is it photo recon? I took a look at it, my Son David picked it out and was intrigued, but I didn't get too close as unlike Gary I do not regard rattlesnakes as pets.
Fri Oct 05, 2007 8:47 am
As far as I'm concerned, the USAF doesn't need another static Merlin- or Allison-powered version.
Perhaps if Tom Cruise were to appear in the courtroom...
"All we want is the truth!"
"You can't handle the truth!!"
Perhaps if Tom Cruise were to appear in the courtroom...
"All we want is the truth!"
"You can't handle the truth!!"
Last edited by Dan K on Fri Oct 05, 2007 8:49 am, edited 1 time in total.
Fri Oct 05, 2007 8:49 am
Dan K wrote:As far as I'm concerned, the USAF doesn't need another static Merlin- or Allison-powered version.
I concur....
the one at Dayton ("Betty Jo") is a Merlin powered ship, the one at Lackland is an Allison driven example....
Martin
Fri Oct 05, 2007 9:04 am
If I remember correctly, the first two YP-82's had Merlins, the first 20 or so P-82B's had Merlins then they went to Allisions.
Robbie
(yes I did correct myself, I new what to say my fingers just did something different, I bet I read it before I submit next time)
Robbie
(yes I did correct myself, I new what to say my fingers just did something different, I bet I read it before I submit next time)
Last edited by Robbie Stuart on Fri Oct 05, 2007 9:40 am, edited 1 time in total.
Fri Oct 05, 2007 9:16 am
The P-82 at Midland is S/N 44-65162, making it the third? P-82B--with Merlin power, the Allisons came later.
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