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Wed Dec 08, 2004 5:57 pm

Not all the team pages are updated on DS airshows website

Heres the T-Bird Schedule for 2005

March
19-20 Luke AFB, AZ

April
2-3 Davis-Monthan AFB, AZ
9-10 MacDill AFB, FL
16 Laughlin AFB, TX
17 Holloman AFB, NM
23 Shaw AFB, SC
24 Patrick AFB, FL
30 Ft. Lauderdale, FL

May
1 Ft. Lauderdale, FL
7-8 Rochester, NY
14-15 Langley AFB, VA
20-22 Andrews AFB, MD
28-29 Wantagh (Jones Beach), NY

June
1 USAF Academy, CO
4 Peterson AFB, CO
5 Malmstrom AFB, MT
11-12 Smyrna, TN
18-19 LaCrosse, WI
25-26 Davenport, IA

July
2 Tinker AFB, OK
3-4 Battle Creek, MI
9-10 Pittsburgh, PA
16-17 Dayton, OH
23-24 Terre Haute, IN
27 Cheyenne, WY
30-31 McChord AFB, WA

August
13-14 Abbotsford, BC
20-21 Chicago, IL
27-28 Westfield, MA
31 Atlantic City, NJ

September
3-5 Cleveland, OH
10-11 Hillsboro, OR
16-17 Reno, NV
18 Mountain Home AFB, ID
24-25 Ft. Worth (Alliance), TX

October
1-2 Salinas, CA
8-9 Little Rock AFB, AR
15-16 Travis AFB, CA
22-23 NASJRB New Orleans, LA
26 La Aurora, Guatemala
29-30 San Salvador, El Salvador

November
2 Acapulco, Mexico
5-6 Randolph AFB, TX
12-13 Nellis AFB, NV

Thu Dec 09, 2004 3:03 pm

Just got back from ICAS - lots of happy and disappointed folks about the Blues but, as the AF General in our ACC demo meeting said, "You folks have to remember we are fighting a war and my equipment goes to support that first then whats left goes to shows."

I'm happy as I got a personalized autographed poster from the Blues for my kids :D

Also, the F/A-22 will not be doing any regularly scheduled demos/fly-bys - it MIGHT to the odd appearence (Nellis AFB Aviation Nation) but we were told not to count on seeing it at all.

The F-14 demo is done forever - say good bye to the Cat and hello to the Rhino (Super Hornet)

Oh yes, there are now F-4 Phantom heritage flights being done with Randy Ball's Mig-17 thrown in for vietnam era fly-bys.

Can't think of anything else at the moment - let me know if you have any other questions and I'll review my post show notes.

Tom P
www.wendoverairbase.com

Thu Dec 09, 2004 5:27 pm

Hmmm,
Once again, nothing at Hanscom AFB Bedford, MA

Bastards!

F-4

Thu Dec 09, 2004 7:27 pm

Tom do you happen to have any details about the F-4 heritage flights? Like who the pilots are and if will also include a demo?

I'm guessing that with the Germans going out in December, that these heritage flights will be the camoed drones.

Also, is there a schedule posted for this?

Ryan

Thu Dec 09, 2004 8:29 pm

wendovertom wrote:The F-14 demo is done forever - say good bye to the Cat and hello to the Rhino (Super Hornet)


The F-4 crews from decades of faithful service are rolling over in their graves! Rhino?!

Try "Super Bug"!

Rhino

Thu Dec 09, 2004 8:36 pm

Randy you have no idea how true you are in that statement. Those of us that get to play with a live F-4 still couldn't believe it when we first heard the Super called a "Rhino". Next thing you know, they will be calling it the "Turkey".

Ryan

Fri Dec 10, 2004 12:25 pm

The F-4 heritage flights are out of Tyndall Fl and Holloman NM. The Tyndall F-4 (which is a QF version) is flown by Lt Col Kerby who also does demo flights! The Holloman ship is Lt Col Hainline and appears to only do heritage flights in a standard (?) camo F-4.

I hear that the Navy Brass is not exactly pleased with the "Rhino" moniker either.

Tom P

Fri Dec 10, 2004 1:16 pm

Both Holloman and Tyndall have three camoed jets. One is a SE Asia scheme with the white belly, one is the SE Asia wraparound scheme, and the other is the European green on green scheme. Tyndall also has a very nice standard grey on grey jet. All were QF-4Es not Gs.

3 of the 4 showed up with 4 other regular QFs at Ellington this summer while they were getting away from Hurricane Frances I believe.

The jets from Holloman are also QF-4s. The German airplanes will be gone by December.

Ryan
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