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carbs

Sun Dec 19, 2004 1:59 am

As the saying goes you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink.

Sun Dec 19, 2004 2:02 am

Jack I'm really glad that you care so much. However, I can really use the $1000 for Christmas.

Aces & Eights

Sun Dec 19, 2004 5:59 am

Havaad 4,...Whoaa!!..there homeboy..your straying off of yer original
inquiry!!!

How much fer a core?,..if it's crap it's junk, if not...it's up to the buyers needs and $.

Are they easy to overhaul?...Well, by the response you got, I would say
..NOOOOO!

Special equipment? Yes, there is. Special tools (flow chamber, mic's,
and a bundle of finesse acquired with experience). Some are available
for dollars...and some can only happen with time.

How much for an overhaul? Well, again by the response you didn't want to hear..., I would say that would be between 500-$1000.

Who is recommended? ..They told you who!!!

So what part of the answers don't you understand????

Hell!!!!, lad....people are bending over backwards, trying to save yer tushy.
Col Rob spelled 99% of his post correct, trying to show you reason!!!
(than, not then..Rob..nice going, botched one word in the last sentence!!!)

Good Luck Harvard IV !!!!
ps.
As for starving Africans? They don't attempt to overhaul aircraft with
"stone-age" understanding of the technology...and consequentially...they don't "rain metal upon our heads" while they're driving up the insurance
rates!!!
pps.
Why give a guy a Thousand Bux, when he doesn't care for the answers
from his peers, betters, and contemporaries?

Sun Dec 19, 2004 10:21 am

Hi!

I have a carb for a R-2800 on a shelf.. I plan to restore it externally
(paint it, galvanize nuts,bolts and linkages etc.), but this would also involve a bit of dismantling in the prosess.

Is there anyone that have access to an overhaul manual for this carb?
It's a Bendix Stromberg PR58E.

Any documentation would be interesting. Scans of cutaway drawings etc..

-Regards,
Erik.

I am an ignorant man!

Sun Dec 19, 2004 11:36 am

...and I like it! What I particularly like are other ignorant men like me! We get together and drink champagne and complain about the world and how ignorant it is!

That said, I am also a happy man. I do what I want cloaked in ignorance, and spend great sums of money to other people who are not ignorant in worshipful embrace of their enlightenment, to which I aspire. And in doing so, some of that enlightenment hopefully passes to me. Of course, some of that enlightenment comes at a cost of my happiness, which at times ebbs away as my ignorance vanishes in painful lessons which often come mysteriously alongside echoes of enlightened voices in my head from years past, telling me to do that thing which would have avoided my pain. But my bliss marvelously returns as my enlightenment grows, and I seek the ultimate attainment of virtue, which is knowledge with no bounds, understanding with all considerations, and peace with the demons which wrack all men's souls....

But I still let other people rebuild 60 year old carbeuretors... if only because they have better equipment than I do... and because would-be medical students and professional paramedics like me should focus on other things in life, like providing good medical care to our patients...

But that is another discussion...

Sun Dec 19, 2004 12:05 pm

Ok then,

I will consider what you all said. Next time, don't try to to scare me into believing. That gives me serious heartburn.

Help Appreciated,

Chris

Mon Dec 20, 2004 12:20 pm

jcw wrote:you do a 1340 carb on your own and you will be courting disaster..how lucky do you feel????
A T-6 carb is a simple float carburetor. Nothing special. Just like a Cessna 150, only larger. Other than replacing worn parts, I don't think there is much special to overhauling any of these float carbs unless the throttle shaft bushings are worn. Then you need to replace the bushings and ream to final size.

Call Dennis @ Sun Air Parts (661) 257-7708. He faxed me an engine overhaul fax sheet a couple of weeks ago that listed carb core values for the R-1340, but I think that was as part of an engine overhaul. They buy cores also.

Companies like Aero Engines overhaul the carb and mags as part of the standard engine overhaul cost. Other places may not.

Mon Dec 20, 2004 4:34 pm

hey go ahead have a nut simple as pie its just lick the one on my champ

good luck

Mon Dec 20, 2004 4:53 pm

Let's just put it this way....The shipping cost alone on the required equipment to overhaul a carb for an 1830 or larger engine is greater than the cost to send it out.

Carb overhaul

Mon Dec 20, 2004 5:41 pm

Didn't a Buchon "go down" in the 80's due to an "error" in rebuilding
its "simple" float carburettor, here Texas? If my memory doesn't fail
me, didn't an experienced mechanic make a "judgement call" in re-using
the original float...because original replacements were hard to find or non-existant at the time?

Mon Dec 20, 2004 6:17 pm

If what bdk said is correct, you've got some crusty old timers posting who are too afraid to fix their carburator due to lack of confidence. So, to them, if anyone asks about it, it can't be done.

Kind of like when Orville and Wilbur Wright flew the first plane, you had all the old man saying "If man were meant to fly, God would have given them wings".

So maybe it's time for the old crusty's to retire, or just bite their tongues.

Chris

Mon Dec 20, 2004 6:38 pm

cvairwerks wrote:Let's just put it this way....The shipping cost alone on the required equipment to overhaul a carb for an 1830 or larger engine is greater than the cost to send it out.
That is a pressure carburetor (containing diaphragms, not a float). A different animal altogether. Those require calibration far in excess of what is required for a float carburetor.

Re: Carb overhaul

Mon Dec 20, 2004 6:50 pm

airnutz wrote:Didn't a Buchon "go down" in the 80's due to an "error" in rebuilding its "simple" float carburettor, here Texas? If my memory doesn't fail me, didn't an experienced mechanic make a "judgement call" in re-using the original float...because original replacements were hard to find or non-existant at the time?
I have never heard of a Buchon with a float carburetor. Some early Merlins had float carburetors (BoB era), but the postwar Merlin 500's used in the Buchons most certainly had pressure carburetors.

carb

Mon Dec 20, 2004 7:09 pm

I guess Forrest Gump was right.
Stupid is.....is Stupid Does!

Mon Dec 20, 2004 7:30 pm

HI :WELL ITS UP TO YOU BUT THE MONEY ,TIME ,AND EFFORT TO GET YOUR A/C IN THE AIR PLUS WHAT YOU VALUE YOU AND YOUR PASSENGERS LIVES THE COST OF AN O/H BY A CERTIFIED SHOP THAT HAS MANY YEARS OF EXPERIENCE IS ONE darn GOOD INSURANCE POLICY! IVE WORKED ON LOTS OF ROUND MOTORS AND TRUST ME ON THIS ONE IT MAY RUN PERFECT ON THE GROUND BUT ABOUT THE TIME THE WHEELS ARE UP IT WILL LET YOU KNOW HOW WELL YOUR HOME BREW CARB IS!ITS NOT AN ISSUE OF CAN YOU DO IT ,MORE WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO TAKE THAT CHANCE THAT YOU MAY LOOSE THE WHOLE SHOOTIN MATCH FOR A MERE $1000.00 ?IF MONEY IS A CRITICAL ISSUE YOU MIGHT WANT TO THINK THE WHOLE AIRPLANE THING OVER.WITH ALL DO RESPECT TRUST ME,FLIGHT INSTUMENTS,AND CARBS ARE NOT WORTH CUTTING CORNERS ON THEY CAN BOTH BE REAL DAY SPOILERS.NONE OF US WANT TO READ ABOUT IT IN THE NEXT WARBIRD REPORT/NEWS PAPER OR FAA CRASH REPORT.IF YOU WANT TO SAVE MONEY CUT COST IN FLASHY RADIO/AVIONICS NOT ON THE HEART OF THE BEAST,THE LIFE YOU SAVE MAY BE MINE!!THANKS MIKE
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