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Sat Dec 15, 2007 11:50 am
You're right, I totally didn't notice how totally mis-shapened the nose was. Crazy. I wonder how all these mods came to be.
I do know that the A-20 had a special turret mod, but I never knew of the B-25 mods in Russia.
Cheers,
David
Sat Dec 15, 2007 12:26 pm
I believe the russians sometimes remake airplanes for display, The ones I saw at Poklonnaya Goya Victory Park in Moscow, I was told some were replicas.....in a blinding snowstorm its hard to tell whats real.....
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armyjunk2 on Sat Dec 15, 2007 12:28 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Sat Dec 15, 2007 12:27 pm
With Regard to the B-25, This is Only a guess, but I would surmize that the original nose was probably damaged, and the "engineers" not having a "good nose" to go by, did their best at restoration. I guess they never met Tom Reilly or Carl Scholl
Mon Dec 17, 2007 11:12 am
The Soviets did several modifications on the B-25, many of them hardly known abroad. Some books, published in recent years, show details of these mods.
On the ID of the Monino B-25: one of my friends has been in the a/c, no ID plate found.
The puzzle goes on.
Mon Dec 17, 2007 12:32 pm
Coert Munk wrote:On the ID of the Monino B-25: one of my friends has been in the a/c, no ID plate found.
The puzzle goes on.
Bummer..but I guess I saved myself the price of a case of vodka..for now
at least.
So what's the next step folks? Does a major body part have to be removed
in order to reveal constructor number stencils? That's gonna be more
vodka than I budgeted for...
Mon Dec 17, 2007 5:10 pm
[quote="armyjunk2"]I believe the russians sometimes remake airplanes for display, The ones I saw at Poklonnaya Goya Victory Park in Moscow, I was told some were replicas.....in a blinding snowstorm its hard to tell whats real.....
quote]
Both the 109 and I-16 are replicas. The P-39 and IL-2 have substantial original parts. The DB-3 is mostly original, as is the Li-2. Nearly all the other WW2 era on display are replicas.
Dave
Thu May 11, 2023 5:00 pm
There's a
post by an individual I believe is associated with the museum with some good history of the airframe after it arrived at the museum. It also has some walk-around style pictures, including one of the instrument panel, such as it is, and a close of up of the engines, which appear to be Shvetsov M-88s.
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