Tue Nov 27, 2007 3:24 pm
It is still there!
41 07 46.57 N 74 20 34.87 W
Mike
41 07 46.57 N 74 20 34.87 W
Mike
DC-6 in the weeds facts
Sat Dec 29, 2007 2:18 pm
I just joinded, as a friend told me about the DC-6,
lets get some of the facts straight, it was landed on a 2000 foot X 40 foot, (700 meter strip) directly behind the aircraft in a wheat field. The entire landing roll was less than 900 feet, after touchdown about 150 feet down the runway.
This strip can be observed on Google Earth, search, Zuehl Station.
Keep the qustions coming, and I will answer without hesitation as to the facts.
James P. MacIvor
lets get some of the facts straight, it was landed on a 2000 foot X 40 foot, (700 meter strip) directly behind the aircraft in a wheat field. The entire landing roll was less than 900 feet, after touchdown about 150 feet down the runway.
This strip can be observed on Google Earth, search, Zuehl Station.
Keep the qustions coming, and I will answer without hesitation as to the facts.
James P. MacIvor
Sat Dec 29, 2007 5:01 pm
Why the wheat field and not the strip?
Steve G
Steve G
Sat Dec 29, 2007 6:11 pm
Sat Dec 29, 2007 8:14 pm
Because somehow the envious iliterates that ran the board of directors at the airfield managed through local politics, and a renegade Texas Frivilous lawsuit attorney, that was appointed as the "community attorney" "Tom Joseph" to have a temporary injunction to keep the DC-6 from landing at the Zuehl Flying community. This put forth a hearing for the rights of property owners to land heavy aircraft with an unlimited wings span at Zuehl. This hearing was won in court, as there was no deed restrictions, CC&R , or bylaw restrictions mentioning these resrtrictions, with regards to weight, or wingspan, and were simply imposed without a legal vote or authority to harass one individual property owner. However the judge made a seperate ruling with regards to the DC-6. As a ruling the judge did rule that there was no restrictions to land heavy aircraft at Zuehl, or no wing span restrictions, however with regard to the DC-6, he made a seperate ruling, not to land until a jury hearing, in my opion he ruled that the DC-6 was a large enough aircraft that he did not want to make a personal decision, based on local politics, so he elected to kick it off to a jury trial sometime in the future. As the DC-6 was scheduled to fly in that day pending a fair lawful, decision from Judge Steal, it was flown into the alternate strip made in the wheat feild by simply rolling the ground with a roller, as alternate, then taxied onto the strip the afternoon of the ruling. As far as I am concerned this ruling was made against my constitutional rights as an American Citizen, Airline Transport Pilot in the United States of America As a type rated pilot on the DC-6 and DC-7, or any other aircraft that can land legally within the United States, with the performance data charts provided for that aircraft to land and take off at ZUEHL.
You will soon see other facts surface in further correspence, I am sure, as more people that want to know the facts will reply as well. And I am sure others will reply with their views.
Jim
You will soon see other facts surface in further correspence, I am sure, as more people that want to know the facts will reply as well. And I am sure others will reply with their views.
Jim
Sat Dec 29, 2007 8:22 pm
Sat Dec 29, 2007 8:55 pm
Jim,
Please post the video of the landing. Everyone here will love to see it! I know I would like to see it again.
Taigh
Please post the video of the landing. Everyone here will love to see it! I know I would like to see it again.
Taigh
Sat Dec 29, 2007 9:07 pm
Maybe I missed it, but are there plans to ever fly the aircraft again?
Sat Dec 29, 2007 11:35 pm
Jim,
Please do post the video! I'd love to see it! I'm a big fan of big Dougs!
Cheers!
Please do post the video! I'd love to see it! I'm a big fan of big Dougs!
Cheers!
Sun Dec 30, 2007 9:13 am
I'm pleased that this DC-6 survives! Thanks for saving her!
Please post the video, I'd love to watch it.
Excuse me if I missed out on something, but what are the future plans for this Six? And why is it now at Zuehl and not at some other/bigger airfield?
Thanks
Please post the video, I'd love to watch it.
Excuse me if I missed out on something, but what are the future plans for this Six? And why is it now at Zuehl and not at some other/bigger airfield?
Thanks
Sun Dec 30, 2007 9:28 am
any info on c/n? Looks kike C118 to me-spinners and lack of paint,front cargo door appearance.
Sun Dec 30, 2007 10:51 am
Ah, L-049 N9412H, AKA "Campagne Lady". I've always found this an intruiging aircraft as it succeeds to survive for so long now, against all odds. I mean, she could well have been scrapped during the 15 years or so she sat there unused and being neglected....
Her history: http://www.javelinamx.com/N9412H/history.htm
Tillerman.
Her history: http://www.javelinamx.com/N9412H/history.htm
Tillerman.
Sun Dec 30, 2007 1:09 pm
Isn't the original pavement under the grass at Zeuhl?
That is what I was told last time I was there.
The neighborhood Nazis at these "Airport Communities" need to get a job.
What goes on in my hanger, or my bedroom, is none of their business.
That is what I was told last time I was there.
The neighborhood Nazis at these "Airport Communities" need to get a job.
What goes on in my hanger, or my bedroom, is none of their business.
Sun Dec 30, 2007 11:24 pm
skybolt2003 wrote:The only way its going out of there is in little pieces.
Mmmm...not necessarily true. Pssst...hey buddy, wanna buy some JATO bottles?
Mon Dec 31, 2007 9:20 am
OK,
Yep it is a C-118, same as a DC-6A, I call it a DC-6, because that is what the registration calls it, and most people do not know what a DC-6 is, let alone a C-118, and the area where the DC-6 is parked is the other runway in the unplatted section of the development that I have purchased, I still use the runway for my cub, but it is to short with obstacles at both ends for the DC-6. This really has some of the egos in an up roar at he community flying association, as they want to put a fence up between my big hanger(Zuehl Station on google earth), and the runway property where the DC-6 is. But they can not legally do it, and they attempted it once before and were ordered by the Judge to take it down.
The future of the DC-6 has been put on hold, as the last five years have been spent on expensive litigation for no reason, other than to satisfy a few illiterate egos, and the sheep(girlymen) that tag along in there foot steps. The reason it is not at another larger airport is simple. It is to big on the ramp for smaller airports, and it would be to expensive, and no facilities to work on it, or allow easy access at larger airports.
This was a real pain at the last large airport, Oakland International, The only place I could keep it to work on it was in the middle of the airport, literally. I had to get tower permision to go back and forth to work on it. And at the smaller airports, I get the standard public airport hassle, "you can not work on airplanes on the ramp", so where are you supposed to work on it? I came across Zuehl, and thought it was the perfect solutution. I flew the S2-F in, parked it in the hanger and nobody said a word. And anybody that knows the S2-F, it needs a hard surface. All of the property around Zuehl was dug out and filled with about 2 feet of limestone foundation in the 1930´s, by the WPA, and the Army corp of Engineers. The ground is basically industructable. So the board started to convince everyone that the DC-6 was going to come there, and destroy the airport, and therefore they enacted an illegal restriction, as a safety restriction, with regards to weight, and wingspan, after I bought my property, and hanger. The bottom line is my toys were bigger than their ercoupe patrol craft, and oversize model airplanes that accomodate a pilot. And I do not say this to insult owners of ercoupes, as I think the aircraft are cool, and I also admire anyone that has the patience and craftsmanship to put together an experimental airplane, and enjoy flying their prize.
And looking for ideas as to the future of the DC-6. I still have plans to build a hanger big enough for 2 DC-6´s, and all of the other aircraft, pending no more litigation.--Any Ideas?---
Jim
Yep it is a C-118, same as a DC-6A, I call it a DC-6, because that is what the registration calls it, and most people do not know what a DC-6 is, let alone a C-118, and the area where the DC-6 is parked is the other runway in the unplatted section of the development that I have purchased, I still use the runway for my cub, but it is to short with obstacles at both ends for the DC-6. This really has some of the egos in an up roar at he community flying association, as they want to put a fence up between my big hanger(Zuehl Station on google earth), and the runway property where the DC-6 is. But they can not legally do it, and they attempted it once before and were ordered by the Judge to take it down.
The future of the DC-6 has been put on hold, as the last five years have been spent on expensive litigation for no reason, other than to satisfy a few illiterate egos, and the sheep(girlymen) that tag along in there foot steps. The reason it is not at another larger airport is simple. It is to big on the ramp for smaller airports, and it would be to expensive, and no facilities to work on it, or allow easy access at larger airports.
This was a real pain at the last large airport, Oakland International, The only place I could keep it to work on it was in the middle of the airport, literally. I had to get tower permision to go back and forth to work on it. And at the smaller airports, I get the standard public airport hassle, "you can not work on airplanes on the ramp", so where are you supposed to work on it? I came across Zuehl, and thought it was the perfect solutution. I flew the S2-F in, parked it in the hanger and nobody said a word. And anybody that knows the S2-F, it needs a hard surface. All of the property around Zuehl was dug out and filled with about 2 feet of limestone foundation in the 1930´s, by the WPA, and the Army corp of Engineers. The ground is basically industructable. So the board started to convince everyone that the DC-6 was going to come there, and destroy the airport, and therefore they enacted an illegal restriction, as a safety restriction, with regards to weight, and wingspan, after I bought my property, and hanger. The bottom line is my toys were bigger than their ercoupe patrol craft, and oversize model airplanes that accomodate a pilot. And I do not say this to insult owners of ercoupes, as I think the aircraft are cool, and I also admire anyone that has the patience and craftsmanship to put together an experimental airplane, and enjoy flying their prize.
And looking for ideas as to the future of the DC-6. I still have plans to build a hanger big enough for 2 DC-6´s, and all of the other aircraft, pending no more litigation.--Any Ideas?---
Jim