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After Jaws I became his fan. Do you guys remember the film "Blue Thunder"?

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"Cohen and Tate" was another good one he played in.


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I always liked Blue Thunder because it filmed the helicopter sequences (inside and out) live instead of doing the cockpit scenes in front of a projection screen. It's funny too because Warren Oates (the Colonel) was petrified of flying in helicopters when the filming started. He said after production that he still doesn't like flying, but he can deal with the fear now.

It's too bad that one aircraft is rotting away in a Hollywood backlot and the other was demodified and sold to do other work. It would be cool to be able to see one of them still flying. I wish someone had preserved it and Airwolf. They were two unique flying props that had more working systems than most people realized.


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I always liked Blue Thunder because it filmed the helicopter sequences (inside and out) live instead of doing the cockpit scenes in front of a projection screen. It's funny too because Warren Oates (the Colonel) was petrified of flying in helicopters when the filming started. He said after production that he still doesn't like flying, but he can deal with the fear now.

It's too bad that one aircraft is rotting away in a Hollywood backlot and the other was demodified and sold to do other work. It would be cool to be able to see one of them still flying. I wish someone had preserved it and Airwolf. They were two unique flying props that had more working systems than most people realized.


One of the helos used in Airwolf is still around. A gentleman in Midland owns it. Didn't the main one they used crash after the tv show was done?


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Yes, it crashed. I was unaware they'd modified a second aircraft anything more than paint and very basic cosmetics. The primary aircraft had a lot of systems that worked like the guns and "missile" launcher, that is what I really hate got lost. Same with the surviving Blue Thunder, it's a cosmetic shell that was just placed on top of the normal helicopter airframe but nothing else was done.


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Yes, it crashed. I was unaware they'd modified a second aircraft anything more than paint and very basic cosmetics. The primary aircraft had a lot of systems that worked like the guns and "missile" launcher, that is what I really hate got lost. Same with the surviving Blue Thunder, it's a cosmetic shell that was just placed on top of the normal helicopter airframe but nothing else was done.


Yeah, the helo that I am referring to was used mostly for ground stills, and a few flight shots. It is nothing more than a paint job. Still kinda cool though.


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THere is a new helicopter museum in Tennessee that has a Bell 222 that has been modified to Airwolf specs.

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mustangdriver wrote:
THere is a new helicopter museum in Tennessee that has a Bell 222 that has been modified to Airwolf specs.


Here's the link:

http://www.helihq.com/halsons_helicopte ... irwolf.asp

There are a few fan sites from the show that have photos posted and document everything. But basically they modified a 222 with bolt on body panels and weapons as such. They also had a second shell of a 222 that was fitted with the same movie makeup but the interior was gutted for the cockpit shots. Also a hole was cut for the cameras to film through (but could be covered over if need be.

When the CBS series ended the movie make up was removed and the 222 reverted back to its original paint. It was sold later on and ended up in Germany as a Med Evac ship. It crashed in 1991 enroute to a hospital with the accident victim on board, and was destroyed.

USA network revived the show and the static Airwolf was shipped to Vancouver for the 1 season of new episoded that were filmed. All of the flying in those episodes was from stock footage and model work only. AFter filming I heard that the static Airwolf was broken up.

The body panels from the flyable ship were bought by a collector and they are what was used as a pattern to recreate the Airwolf in the link above using a 222 that reached the end of its useful life.

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You got to admit both Airwolf and BLue Thunder were mean looking helos.

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Getting back to Chief Brody and JAWS, remember the scene on the ORCA when Quint is telling the shark tale when he survived the sinking of the Indianapolis? You can tell Spielberg is an airplane enthusiast by the script:

"Noon, the fifth day, Mr. Hooper, a Lockheed Ventura saw us. He swung in low and he saw us... he was a young pilot, a lot younger than Mr. Hooper. Anyway, he saw us and he come in low and three hours later a big fat PBY comes down and starts to pick us up. You know that was the time I was most frightened... waitin' for my turn. I'll never put on a lifejacket again. So, eleven hundred men went in the water; 316 men come out and the sharks took the rest, June the 29th, 1945. Anyway, we delivered the bomb. "

I bet very few knew what a Lockheed Ventura was let alone a PBY?

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The actor who played Quint in Jaws is Robert Shaw. He recently passed after a long, varied career just a notch below the bigger names. Has anyone seen A MAN FOR ALL SEASONS, about the struggle between the King Henry, played by Shaw and the Archbishop, ? It is one of, if not THE, greatest movies ever made. No shoot em up, but a battle of good and evil, of truth and manipulation. See it on tv or rent it, it is based on the true events.

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Was very sad to here that Roy Schieder had passed. A truly great actor. I strangely liked SeaQuest DSV, good Saturday afternoon viewing, and Jaws was a classic. There are rumours that it was Robert Shaw who wrote the Indianapolis scene in Jaws. He would have possibly known a bit about aircraft too seeing he was in The Dambusters and The Battle Of Britain films. Will need to search out the film that Bill Greenwood mentions, not seen that one.

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Roy Schieder and Scott Glenn (the captain of the Dallas in Hunt for Red October) are two of my all time favorite character actors. They could be appearing in a VD training film and I'd be hooked. Something about those guys, i've just got to watch whatever they're in.


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