This is the place where the majority of the warbird (aircraft that have survived military service) discussions will take place. Specialized forums may be added in the new future
Sat Feb 16, 2008 7:31 pm
Man, what did that 109 hit? It looks like it just flew through another aircraft!
More of that art. Looks great.
Canso42
Sat Feb 16, 2008 7:47 pm
whew.....now that all the copyright talk is over.
Back to the art.
I'm a closet Comic Book guy, have been since I was a kid. Have a decent collection between my brother and myself. Even inherited my Dads comics. His comics are more like nest eggs at this point with the value of certain titles these days.
But my point is I'd love to see Warbirds in Comics come back into mainstream print even if it was in an online format. Sure there are thousands of real stories that could be depicted.
Found this the other summer while cleaning out the basement. I absolutely love it.....makes me want to start tracking down more of them.
Shay
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Semper Fortis
Sat Feb 16, 2008 7:57 pm
You guys are taking my comments a bit personally. I'm not trying to refute anyone's knowledge of the law. I'm just pointing out that there is a vast difference between the legal definitions of copyright law and what happens in practice, and often a vast gulf between legal ownership and rightful ownership.
As a working artist, I take copyright law very seriously indeed. And I've had ample opportunity to defend my own copyrights. As a sole proprietor of humble means, however, I'm generally forced to defend them without the benefit of a lawyer. I win some, I lose some. In general, I don't lose to much sleep over it, for the simple reason that I'm quite capable of producing more creative work. And I am far more interested in the next work I produce, than the last one. It often seems to me the people who worry the most about IP are those whose livelihood depends upon their retaining possession of someone else's work.
From my own personal perspective, IP law has done far more to protect the barons of industry than it ever has to protect me, so you'll have to forgive me if I sound a bit jaded about the whole thing. It doesn't mean I encourage people to flout the law, or that I hold lawyers in disdain. I'm happy you guys are out there battling away to defend the fruits of others labors.
I just think we all have a moral obligation to uphold the spirit of the law when the letter of it falls short. Sometimes in these tangled webs of legal interpretation, common sense often seems to get lost.
Sun Feb 17, 2008 1:16 am
Thanks for all the kind words about my art and for all the legal advice. I'm really going to have to think about this. Maybe I should do up a couple and consult an attorney about publishing them. Again, thanks for your thoughts.
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Shay - Have you read the 2006 Battler Britton mini-series published by DC comics? Good stuff.
Here's a link to more pages.
http://forum.superpouvoir.com/showthread.php?t=4089
Sun Feb 17, 2008 10:54 am
Matt Martin wrote:Shay - Have you read the 2006 Battler Britton mini-series published by DC comics? Good stuff.
Thanks Matt!!
That is in indeed good stuff. I'm gonna have to start looking for more War Comics. Most of mine are the typical Superhero/Sci-fi types. So I'm looking forward to collecting again.
Shay
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Semper Fortis
Mon Feb 18, 2008 5:01 am
What a pathetic statement on our society as a whole when a young person with enthusiastic imagination has to temper his talents due to the fear of litigation
No, a lawyer is not the first person that I go running to when I think someone may have farted in my general direction.
Watch the movie Devil's Advocate for more info on where lawyers come from. The more frivilous lawsuits we see in the news each day makes one think that movie is more of a documentary than a figment of one's imagination!
Mon Feb 18, 2008 11:18 am
HEY...Any chance of turning this thread back towards its original path? You might wanna' take your "Lawyers are great", "Lawyers suck." dust up someplace else. It's like politics and religion...ain't nobody gonna' change their mind, so why burden the rest of us with it?
Mudge the counselor
Mon Feb 18, 2008 1:13 pm
As far as modern war comics, the "can't-miss" one would be
Enemy Ace: War In Heaven. It was only 2 issues and is collected in a single graphic novel. Written by Garth Ennis with art by Chris Weston, it's a blast. Check Amazon for copies.
Mon Feb 18, 2008 3:01 pm
how greedy can things become........ ww 2 nose art, displayed & painted for morale purposes....... done at the time wiith no financial gains planned.... now decades later ancestors cashing in.
Mon Feb 18, 2008 8:48 pm
I'm with Mudge on this one. Who remembers Johnny Cloud, the Indian flying the Mustang? DC comics in the sixties, he was occasionally in the same issue with Sgt Rock and Easy Co. or the nutcase who saw Civil war ghosts in his tank turret.
Or even more off the wall- DC Comics "Enemy Ace" the Red Baron ripoff. I didn't like the story line but all the pilots thought in specifications of each other's aircraft. I was the only kid at Kirby Elementary who could pronounce "Oberursel".
1960's WWII comics, I always liked the DC titles best and Sgt. Rock and Easy Co. were the stuff! Sgt Fury seemed for a more mature audience.
Canso42
Mon Feb 18, 2008 9:11 pm
Canso42 wrote:I'm with Mudge on this one. Who remembers Johnny Cloud, the Indian flying the Mustang? DC comics in the sixties, he was occasionally in the same issue with Sgt Rock and Easy Co. or the nutcase who saw Civil war ghosts in his tank turret. Or even more off the wall- DC Comics "Enemy Ace" the Red Baron ripoff. I didn't like the story line but all the pilots thought in specifications of each other's aircraft. I was the only kid at Kirby Elementary who could pronounce "Oberursel". 1960's WWII comics, I always liked the DC titles best and Sgt. Rock and Easy Co. were the stuff! Sgt Fury seemed for a more mature audience.
You said it. When I was very young my family and I went to Mexico for a summer vacation. Upon arriving at Acapulco, the first thing I did was to go the beach. Since I was as white as a ghost, you can imagine what 4 hours of direct sun had in me. So, for the next 2 weeks I had to stay indoors and my favorite pastime was reading these comic books. Man, how I loved it. The first WWII comic I read was Fightin’ Army. But then I grew up and felt no need to stack hundreds of these comics and threw them away… oh, my!
Tue Feb 19, 2008 1:41 pm
I found a very cool graphic novelization of Pierre Clostermann's "The Big Show" on the web a while back...sadly, not in English. I contacted the artist about the possible availability of an English version, but it looks like his hands are tied by the publisher, who doesn't seem to have any inclination to pursue it.
Anyway, here's the link:
http://www.bemarnet.es/mperales/
Tue Feb 19, 2008 5:17 pm
Jesse C. wrote:Nice work Matt! Welcome to the Wix!
One of my all time favorite noses was done by Al Merkling and it was called "Patched Up Piece" I am still trying to find a decent shot of that.
Here is a link to some of his work.
http://www.usaaf-noseart.co.uk/merkling-al.htm
Here's what's supposed to be Merkling's A-20 work.. 8th Sqdn, 3rd Atack Group.. Jimmy Down's mount
Tue Feb 19, 2008 5:24 pm
That is a nice nose piece, thanks for Posting it Hemi!
Thu Feb 21, 2008 2:41 am
Well, here you go. This was fun to do!
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