Warbird Information Exchange

howdy airnutz. you are to kind to take the time to send all of these leads & info!! you are a real gentleman, & i am in your debt if you need a favor i can help with. certainly with all the leads & email addresses of godwin & miller, something has to pan out & i will eventually hit pay dirt in the positive direction that being solid info on frizzell, or negative info, that being he was not an atronaut in the x-20 program, but at least i won't be wasting my time further. why did you feel that wantajja could have helped me further?? regards, tom

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tom d. friedman - hey!!! those fokkers were messerschmitts!! * without ammunition, the usaf would be just another flying club!!! * better to have piece of mind than piece of tail!!

helldivers, funny you should mention los alamos!!! frizzell supposedly has a relative who is still currently actively working their, or near retirement!! all the best, tom

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tom d. friedman - hey!!! those fokkers were messerschmitts!! * without ammunition, the usaf would be just another flying club!!! * better to have piece of mind than piece of tail!!

Hey Tom,
Well, my comment on Wantajja was a bit rude on my part. I meant in the
comment, that a fella with his resources might have taken a little longer
in thought to give you a lead to Godwin. It took me about 20 mins to
come up with my offering. It was rude of me..because a guy of his
"caliber" and responsibilities...did at least tell you that much. And without
his "name-drop"...I would not have made the search...so he was afterall
very helpful! My apologies for my comment to Mr. Wantajja...

But, you never know what will occur! 3 weeks...a month from now..a
"light bulb" may flash in his head, and you may get a totally unexpected
revelation in an E-mail!

A Case in Point
20 years ago at a Jaguar Club friends wedding, I was cooling off outside
during the wedding reception. An "old gent" was doing the same, and we
struck-up a conversation..where he revealed he was a former Convair
Electronics Engineer. His "bag" was the B-58 Hustler Celestial Navigation
System and its woes. We had one heck of a conversation for the restof the
party....you just never know what will turn-up....

I don't really care if Mr. Frizzell was an astronaut candidate..but what
intrigues me is the variations in his career..and where they led him.

1. Navy Flight, Catalinas WW2..which squadron and mission roles?
2. Post-war...jets nuclear weapons delivery...Navy or AF?
3. Post 1950..was he going to school for Nuke stuff..or was he still
inservice and was "funneled" into a program, which led him to
the Nuke Rocket Propulsion program.
4. If he was Navy, how did he get into a USAF rocket program as a Tech or ???
5 ...And of course the later Astronaut possibilities..
6.Post Dyna Soar, or Nuke Rocket Propulsion Program, what did he
do with the regulatory commision, etc. ?

Really, it's all a "bit" of a "head scratcher"....

If he has a family member a Los Alamos..wouldn't they be your biggest
lead?

Of course there is the Archives in Missouri...but theres a tough "dig"!!!
..but that is your "best bet" !!!

PS
In the Miller book...Neil Armstong was not one of the listed USAF pilots
for Dyna-Soar..what was your source?

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"Leave it to ol' Slim. I got ideas...and they're all vile, baby." South Dakota Slim
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hi, all your questions are at the top of my list already!! all i know is that he was navy!! i'm getting real far!! whoopdeedoo!! i may try the los alamos connection, but running the security gauntlet can be a challenge. i keep a positive attitude that down the road i'll catch a fluke break as you mentioned.

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tom d. friedman - hey!!! those fokkers were messerschmitts!! * without ammunition, the usaf would be just another flying club!!! * better to have piece of mind than piece of tail!!

You KNOW he started Navy...but you didn't really explain the transition into an AF program. For the 50's stuff you said he continued flying but its
cloudy when he crossed over to Nuke or AF, or Etc....

As for Los Alamos....why bother with the relatives security credentials...
why not focus on the family tree? ..and a simple "map-it" search?

After you know to begin asking THE questions...it's not a "fluke break"
when you get an agreeable answer...it's just pay-off for clever curiousity!

Good luck Tom...

..And thank-you for the earlier compliment...but, I'm a Sucker for
"Ripping Yarns" !! Some pan-out and some don't....What's a little
curiousity cost?

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He bowls overhand...He is the most interesting man in the world.
"In Peace Japan Breeds War", Eckstein, Harper and Bros., 3rd ed. 1943(1927, 1928,1942)
"Leave it to ol' Slim. I got ideas...and they're all vile, baby." South Dakota Slim
"Ahh..."The Deuce", 28,000 pounds of motherly love." quote from some Mojave Grunt
DBF

hello air nutz!! you have a "glass half full attitude" i appreciate it!! no clue how & if he transferred to an air force program. i have his family history, doesn't tell much. no shortage of research to do...... it's the time, between running my business, being a husband, dad to 4 kids, 1 in college, on & on!! & finding time for what i enjoy!! cripes a mighty!!! but i keep banging away!! regards,tom

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tom d. friedman - hey!!! those fokkers were messerschmitts!! * without ammunition, the usaf would be just another flying club!!! * better to have piece of mind than piece of tail!!

Sorry Tom,..you definitely have a "full plate"!!!
Best regards, Jim...

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He bowls overhand...He is the most interesting man in the world.
"In Peace Japan Breeds War", Eckstein, Harper and Bros., 3rd ed. 1943(1927, 1928,1942)
"Leave it to ol' Slim. I got ideas...and they're all vile, baby." South Dakota Slim
"Ahh..."The Deuce", 28,000 pounds of motherly love." quote from some Mojave Grunt
DBF