Quick A-25 Move. Hurry, Hurry, Chop, Chop.

[wendovertom]

Mike - I'm gonna throw in my bid for you to bring your TBM to Wendover when it gets done sometime in the future.

Tom P.

[Taylor Stevenson]

Is the NMUSAF an AAM (American Association of Museums) accredited museum? If so, why couldn't we start a campaign of sorts to eliminate the accredation? No museum that damages their historic artifacts in such a way that the NMUSAF has should be endorsed by the AAM.

[mustangdriver]

Is the NMUSAF an AAM (American Association of Museums) accredited museum? If so, why couldn't we start a campaign of sorts to eliminate the accredation? No museum that damages their historic artifacts in such a way that the NMUSAF has should be endorsed by the AAM.

You have got to be joking right? Have you ever been there? And how is that going to help warbirds? I also advise you to read Mike's last post.

[Django]

This is getting way out of hand...

[Taylor Stevenson]

You have got to be joking right? Have you ever been there? And how is that going to help warbirds? I also advise you to read Mike's last post.

I have been there several times... nice museum, but it seems that their leadership's mentality is that there aught to be no flying warbirds. I am just angry at the way they have treated this artifact. If the National Archives cut the Constitution to fit in an envelope to be sent to DC don't you think people would be pissed? If the Smithsonian hired U-Haul to transport one of their priceless locomotives and it was damaged, don't you think that is reason to be angry? I understand Mikes post, but it just seems like there is this growing negative trend with these national avaition museums. I don't like it. Also, how does crippling the only A-25 out there help warbirds? Maybe a petition of some sorts or a letter to AAM could be the catalyst for change that I believe that museum needs. Just my thoughts.

[mustangdriver]

The change sounds more like you think they should be flying their aircraft. That is not what the museum is about. They have helped flying warbirds before. They did not keep the last A-25 from flying. It was never going to fly. It is for a static collection. It is the last of it's type there fore it shouldn't be flown. the things they did to take the aircraft and transport it were not right, but once again there have been alot worse. Give them some time, it is going to look great when they are done.

[Nathan]

I understand some airplanes will never fly again. But what IF someone down the road wanted to make some of the USAFM static aircraft flyable? Just curious.

[ZRX61]

It does seem a bit odd that the museum has a policy of ensuring their aircraft never fly, but the guns on display only need a belt of ammo dropped in them to start firing. I know for a fact that the twin .30 brownings & the M2 .50cals on display work perfectly. I've fired them.

[davem]

Well said Sasnak.

Clearly there were both physical and moral mistakes made by the museum that need to be set right.

They had the knowledge, capability and resources to do it it right and they did it wrong.

A public apology and a few dollars to Mike to fufill their obligations (Mike said he was willing to see the project to completion, the museum chose to take the aircraft back). I am sure it will be a fine display for everyone to be proud of - most certainly Mike.

To those who run the museum - be a man (ok, that's politically incorrect), do the right thing.

[mustangdriver]

I understand some airplanes will never fly again. But what IF someone down the road wanted to make some of the USAFM static aircraft flyable? Just curious.

Most of the aircraft in the NMUSAF are left in flyable condition when able. The restorations are done to bring as close to fligh tready as possible for their time period. There are very few that can not be made to fly again. Keep in mind that we have them in static condition. SO no you can't just push it out and go. It would need further work to get the aircraft ready to fly, but the airframes are good to go.

[Jack Cook]

Mike had posted some photos of the A-25 wrecks before and after recovery. I can't seem to find them now. Anybody....anybody??
Seeing the before would really help some folks who never saw them realize the level of what he accomplished.

[mustangdriver]

Mike had posted some photos of the A-25 wrecks before and after recovery. I can't seem to find them now. Anybody....anybody??
Seeing the before would really help some folks who never saw them realize the level of what he accomplished.

I agree that Mike did a great job.

[Nathan]

I understand some airplanes will never fly again. But what IF someone down the road wanted to make some of the USAFM static aircraft flyable? Just curious.

Most of the aircraft in the NMUSAF are left in flyable condition when able. The restorations are done to bring as close to fligh tready as possible for their time period. There are very few that can not be made to fly again. Keep in mind that we have them in static condition. SO no you can't just push it out and go. It would need further work to get the aircraft ready to fly, but the airframes are good to go.

thanks mustangdriver.

I realize that they just cant be pushed out and go but was just curious what would be if they wanted to make them flying.

tally ho,
Nathan

[Dan K]

Mike had posted some photos of the A-25 wrecks before and after recovery. I can't seem to find them now. Anybody....anybody??
Seeing the before would really help some folks who never saw them realize the level of what he accomplished.

I remember different pics also, but here are some others I just stumbled across:

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v288/ ... ELLDIVERS/

[Jack Cook]

there you are. The starting point for the A-25 project. WOW!!
Thanks Zillarian whomever you are.