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Tue Feb 08, 2005 4:38 am

Hi Dan,
Ooops - ~er~ yeah - I meant Lockheed 12, not 10. But it's not either really, it's a US military 12, so it should be the military designation, which was L-40, or whatever (me book's ain't to hand, rats); just like the Dutch military machine is actually a 212...
Minor pedantry, and it's great to see it's due to fly.
Excellent stuff!

Cheers

Yanks 12

Tue Feb 08, 2005 8:54 am

James... yep... not really a 12 either but... think they called it a C-40. I keep reading thru my Lockheed book trying to sort the histories. Hard to keep those export models and military models straight.

When I was there for the airshow in 2003 the Yanks crews were talking about the different aircraft that they flew. So I know they fly some of their stuff.

Tue Feb 08, 2005 9:59 am

JDK wrote:Ooops - ~er~ yeah - I meant ...


Hmmmm..... didn't you point out that I had trouble indentifying airframes that were not intact? :roll: :P

Mike (snickering)

Tue Feb 08, 2005 10:44 pm

JDK wrote:undergoing restoration by a couple of closely related Brits, in 2002.

A couple of questions... Did you see the Sikorski R-4 Hoverfly frame?


In late 2000 I recall seeing the R-4 frame and it was just a frame. A long term project especially since R-4 & H-6 (same systems in a nicer airframe) aren't common like the later Sikorskys.

Wed Feb 09, 2005 12:31 am

Thanks Mike,
Fair comment. I'll just go boil my head.

Sikorski R-4s. As you say John, they ain't common, but as a warbird, they aren't that rare either. To my certain knowledge, there's the Yanks machine, an unrestored but complete example in the Canadian Aviation Museum, at least 2 others in the USA that are complete, and the complete, restored, but hung on a string so you can't see it example in the RAF Museum, London. No fliers though. :( Anyone got a complete list? I have the Air Britain Hoverfly file (excellent) but it's at sea at the moment...
Cheers!

Wed Feb 09, 2005 7:35 am

I have never heard of an aviation museum trying to get a cut of some poor freelancer's measly profits...(and believe me they aren't much, I've been there). Just ridiculous! The response back should be "you guys can also pay me for the thousands of dollars of free publicity" ! :twisted:

John

Wed Feb 09, 2005 7:57 am

JohnH wrote:I have never heard of an aviation museum trying to get a cut of some poor freelancer's measly profits...(and believe me they aren't much, I've been there). Just ridiculous! The response back should be "you guys can also pay me for the thousands of dollars of free publicity" ! :twisted:

John


Those were my thoughts as well. Of course I didn't want to make that point until after I was done my tour! :lol: By that time I just wanted to leave.

Mike

Wed Feb 09, 2005 9:28 am

Who has taken over the day to day operations at Yanks after Stan Hoefler?

T J

Wed Feb 09, 2005 12:24 pm

T J Johansen wrote:Who has taken over the day to day operations at Yanks after Stan Hoefler?
Ron Blondel then Frank Wright. Ron has moved on to do strictly fundraising now.

Wed Feb 09, 2005 6:38 pm

bdk wrote:Ron Blondel then Frank Wright. Ron has moved on to do strictly fundraising now.
Hmmm. Ron Blondel was also involved with Square 1 at one stage, as was Tony Corbo. Do you know where he's at these days?

T J

Wed Feb 09, 2005 8:06 pm

T J Johansen wrote:Ron Blondel was also involved with Square 1 at one stage, as was Tony Corbo. Do you know where he's at these days?
Ron has had a lot of varied jobs over the years. Looks like he has found one that suits him now. Haven't seen Corbo since the airshow last May. He's out of the paint applicatin business though. All those years of solvents made him quite ill.
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