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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 9:57 am 
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...clip the wings and do a little canopy work....oh wait they are itallian....they would refuse to run 90% of the time!
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P: Noise coming from under instrument panel. Sounds like a midget pounding on something with a hammer.

S: Took hammer away from midget.


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Very cool. I like the 3 fighters. (2 cammo and the 1 dark green). The second of those 3, with the roundel... is that post war, or post fall of Mussolini?


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Django wrote:
Very cool. I like the 3 fighters. (2 cammo and the 1 dark green). The second of those 3, with the roundel... is that post war, or post fall of Mussolini?

Good question.

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Above: This is the Macchi Mc 202. The 'Barracca' on the nose is the unit emblem derived from the ace from the Great War; he had a prancing horse as his logo, as later used by some car company or other. It is in the Regia Aeronautica (Royal Air Force) colours of the Mussolini fascist era - 1922 - 1943 - the round disc with the three Fasces (rods with an axe bundle) inside. The royal 'House of Savoy' crest is on the tail. Seen here in another, perhaps more familiar example:

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Above: This is the Macchi MC 205V. It is in the colours of the Italian forces which fought alongside the Allies - the Italian Co-Belligerent Air Force (Aviazione Cobelligerante Italiana, or ACI, or Aeronautica Cobelligerante del Sud), - 1943-5 and is essentially the same as the postwar colours of the Aeronautica Militare.

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This is the Fiat G.55. It is in ANR (Aeronautica Nazionale Repubblican - National Republican Air Force) colours, the colours of the Axis puppet government, 1943-45. These are the square frame with the two Fasces.

In the Great War, as an allied combatant they were second to none with their Alipni (mountain troops) and airmen setting a standard. While Italy entered W.W.II with a reasonably modern air force, Mussolini neglected development and infrastructure, with the result that the modern types seen above were too few and too late. Through most of the war the Italians had aircraft very roughly comparable to the Martin B-10 and Boeing P-26. The 1943 armistice was not a good time for the country.

However the Italian Air Force Museum has one of the greatest collection of rare to unique and historic aircraft; as well as what I reckon is the largest collection of military trimotors. :D

I had to do some checking to get that, I thought I knew it! - any corrections welcome.

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Very nice planes and very pics, Thanks for posting


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James, thanks for the education! 8)


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Django wrote:
James, thanks for the education! 8)

No problem Django. Funny thing was I thought I 'knew' most of that - but I didn't. I had to check up most of it. Having the museum guide on my desk helped a bit though!

For those who missed the reference to a certain ace and a car company, here's the ace's pennant.

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By the way, Sabremech, where there three or four Schneider Trophy racers on show?

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There were three of them. It was truely a sight to see. Just thinking of what these machines did and how fantastic they look.

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I wish I could get some of my gang at the NMUSAF to take notes on the lighting in these buildings.

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I've got to say that this is a beautiful and amazing plane.

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And it's absolutely amazing to think that it (the MC-72) still holds the world record!
I personally consider it one of the most under-rated and overlooked aircraft. Wonder how much it'd be worth!

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RyanShort1 wrote:
I personally consider it one of the most under-rated and overlooked aircraft. Wonder how much it'd be worth!

Agreed. It is priceless.

I asked how many there were because the fourth was loaned to an exhibition on speed in Rome, which closed mid May - I'm surprised it's not back on show yet.

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