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Stetz, what are the chances of me purchasing an autographed kid's book?


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most of the owners of large collections of aircraft like Kermit tend to be eccentric in way way or another and tend to do as they please.


I do not think anyone here is passing along any judgements to this regards.

It's his $, his museum, his birds & his dreams.

As a canadian, I visited the Miami museum once & Polk City 3 times already.

I for one, am just glad his aspirations are focussed on WW2 birds.

We do need more of this breed. Period :wink:


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Hello kalamazookid,

Yes I will get some Spitfire pics. Does he only have one? :D Any particular area you want to see for closeups?

As for Mr. Weeks I've been in awe of the man since I watched him climb out of his P-40 at Tico in 1986. Back then his hair was longer, he reminded me of Jimmy Buffet.


Actually, he kinda reminds me of Ted Nugent, but a calmer version.

He seems like a stand up kinda guy who really has a passion for planes and is doing the best he can to keep them around.

Plus, us long haired guys have to stick together! :D


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The math is simple for me...yeah, he has a lot of planes, yeah he can't fly them all at one time, but at least they are around and given a loving home and some of them would'nt be around if he had'nt taken them in....but I agree, it would be nice to see him hire a few pilots and make some of the planes a little more active on the airshow circuit....just my 2 cents...

Having Met Kermit a few times, he seems a nice guy, very approachable.....at the Aspen airshow a number of years a go I was talking with him and Howard Pardue and I asked why Kermit had'nt brought anything to the show to fly....he said he was waiting on his Wildcat to be finished at Nelson's shop and then he was hoping to fly that...Howard looked at him and said "Well, it's been finished for a while now..." and Kermit looked somewhat chagrined, apparently he could have had the Wildcat at that Aspen show but somewhere there had been a bit of a lack of communication....did see the Wildcat the next year at the Breckenridge show, in its white and grey scheme....well worth the wait!

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True, he doesn't fly them all but I've seen him fly several in one day. 8)
Looked to me like he was having a good time as he rode off.

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If you make it to the resto shop get a pic of the L-1. I was there about four years ago and I'm interested in their progress. It should be a pretty sweet plane when its done.


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Even though alot of people may not agree with what some owners do with their collection of aircraft the fact is if there were not Kermit Weeks, Jerry Yagens, Mike Potters and Paul Allens around alot of this aircraft would not be saved at all.


Sorry, but I have to be devil's advocate here. If people with large collections who don't fly them sold the aircraft, then maybe a bunch of individual owners would fly individual aircraft. I'm not attacking Kermit, just saying that aircraft IMHO should fly if they can. It seems that more and more aircraft are being restored to flyable condition and then not flown. Yanks Air Museum, Champlain's stuff before sale, some of Cavanaugh's. There's enough old birds with rotted spars and longerons to be in "collections".

The other thing I'm tired of hearing (beside athletes "holding out" and refusing to play when under contract) is the "it costs us money to bring the plane to a show". With all due respect, Yeah?!!! It costs me money to drive to airshows, to take our Shelby to a car show, to play golf, etc, etc. Such is life. Personal peeve, but I'm so sick of everything in our society coming down to $. If you have $50 million in the bank as a result of selling a business, or capitalizing on investments, why do the aircraft have to be "revenue generators"?

Jerry Yagen, by the way, gets as many of his birds to airshows as possible, often at his own cost. I'm thankful of that.

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...and some of them would'nt be around if he had'nt taken them in....
Can someone provide an example?


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...and some of them would'nt be around if he had'nt taken them in....
Can someone provide an example?

AFAIK there were no other buyers for the Sunderland when Kermit bought it. Certainly none from the UK.

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Anyone know where I could get his kid's book? A signed one would be cool. I found it on Amazon, but I thought I'd try looking for a signed one first. The FOF site doesn't have them.


I would call down to the gift shop at FOF and ask if they have one or ask them if they could get it for your. They seemed to be pretty nice the last few times I have been there. You could find a copy and run into him at Reno or if you know someone going, have them take it with them and do it then.

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...and some of them would'nt be around if he had'nt taken them in....
Can someone provide an example?

AFAIK there were no other buyers for the Sunderland when Kermit bought it. Certainly none from the UK.


And it's amazing how many UK fans still cry "foul" over him having done so. :?

I guess I'm still not quite convinced the Sunderland would've vanished had the purchase not taken place--or is there knowledge to the contrary?

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Some of this forum's posters keep crying "It is not a perfect world!"
It is not perfect. Never will be. Something to hope for, but please don't be disappointed when it isn't.
I choose to focus on the positive side of life and we Warbird fanatics have many positive things to be thankful for. This forum of Scotts is but one example of Warbird things I am thankful for.
As to Warbird owners and the general tone of this thread...
I am very happy that many people with means, and the many more with more limited means, choose to acquire, restore and display, flying or static, a/c that I am very interested in.
So many of these people are also good people and Kermit Weeks is one of the good guys. As has been stated before, he is approachable and personable. I have enjoyed my two very brief conversations with him. So many other a/c owners are also truly interesting and "real" people. Glad I have had the chance to enjoy my time with them and enjoy their a/c as well.
There are all different types out there and most of them contribute positively to the Warbird universe.
Not a perfect world by any means, but you get to choose if its 1/2 empty or 1/2 full.
(Yah, I know...to an engineer, either way, that glass is twice as big as it needs to be. :wink: )


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Sure, in a perfect world, they would all fly and take us all for a ride, but no, that is not the case.

How would you like to be told that you can not do something you enjoy because you are not playing with all your toys? Would you give them away, regardless of how much you like them, because a few guys thing you should be playing with them all?

If it where me, I would do what he is doing, what he pleases and makes him happy! The very fact that he even has a museum vs. a locked away collection should be an indicator that he is doing what he can to share them.

Either flying or in a museum, I am just glad they are not rotting away in a jungle, junkyard or a dock!


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Big money, middle money, I just appreciate all it takes to bring an aircraft to an airshow. The hours of maintenance, cost of up keep, oils and fuel, salaries to meckinecks...I am awed everytime I can even "see" a warbird, or hear the drone of a Radial, the buzz of a Rolls or Merlin. I appreciate it guys, and my heartfilled Thanks to everyine involved in preserving maintainin' and Flyin' our heritage. 8) Peace out

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So how accurate is the 150 aircraft number?
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