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Thu Feb 10, 2005 11:22 pm

TimApNy wrote:Friendly fire Isn't

Edit:
Whose side where they on anyway, or were they their own side?


Pretty much they were fighting for thier lives against the Russians, so they pretty much took help from where ever they could get it. Which is why thier aviation museums have such a weird collection of aircraft.

hakenkreuz/hakaristi

Fri Feb 11, 2005 12:26 am

The German swastika and Finnish hakaristi were not reversed...but the
swastika was set on edge.

The Finns were the only Axis loser not occupied post-WW2, due to
the nature of the 3 Wars they fought in the same period. Kinda like the
runt kid who wouldn't quit..no matter who they fought! Everyone probably
felt the Finns had "earned the right" to be left alone.

Here's a quick one-page history of Finlands WW2 experience....3 fer 1...

http://hkkk.fi/~yrjola/war/finland/summary.html

ps,
Another potential "censorship hit" in the above link address!

pps,
A quicky link on the swastika history
http://www.luckymojo.com/swastika.html

A strange coincidence..behind the swastika to the left is the "rising sun"
above the mountain...

Hawkeye Hattie II

Fri Feb 11, 2005 3:02 am

That's the one!! The closeup I have is of the other side which didn't have the nose art. I notice in your photo there's no serial on the tail - was it censored off your print? Thanks for clearing this up for me. See - who says porrnn can't be educational? :roll:
-Chris

Hawkeye Hattie II

Fri Feb 11, 2005 6:43 am

ChrisB, Don'tcha love it when when "loose ends" come together?? It turns
photos to stories...#411, Lt. Pat Coleman, Hawkeye Hattie II..formerly
#403 HHI. Too bad the "flesh" is faded...

Pleeezzz.... post Lady Louise also?? She ain't no lady!!
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44th FS p-38s

Fri Feb 11, 2005 9:36 am

#411 was not originally #403 s/n 44-23274. They are 2 different airplanes. #403 was lost when the canopy departed in flight and hit pilot Bill French on the head. The airplane disinigrated on the way down and spit him out. He came to at the last second and got half a swing on his parachute before he hit the ground. #402 was "Magnolia Mauler" and I have a nice shot of "Lady Louise". Let me see what you all have!!!

44th FS

Fri Feb 11, 2005 3:22 pm

Jack....I didn't mean 403 became 411..I meant 403 was, then 1st Lt.
Coleman's, previous mount. Did I assume correctly when viewing a photo
of 403 "Hawkeye Hattie I" captioned with Coleman's name?

Lady Louise is very HOT nose art!! Woo..Woo!! Do post her!!!
I've seen cowl-art on the Port engine of a P-38, of a vamp holding a
cocktail riding a tiger. The point is..they both appear to have been
the work of the same artist.
The 44th seemed to have more than their "fair share" of quality artists!!

Thanx Jack..sorry for the confusion!! Good stuff though!

Don't forget "Sarinah"!

Sun Feb 13, 2005 4:48 pm

And don't forget 'Sarinah' as displayed at our Mitchell in the Netherlands
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