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Thu Nov 13, 2008 7:34 pm

Warbird Kid wrote:So I guess the museum wont be keeping there C-82 and C-119 flying? :cry:


Unfortunately that is the case. The fly in of the C-82 a couple of years back and this fly in of the C-119 were and will be the last flights of these two airplanes.

I don't think that the Museum has the resources to consider keeping these as flying warbirds. It would be great if it were possible.

Thu Nov 13, 2008 7:36 pm

so no other C-119 is flying today then?

Thu Nov 13, 2008 7:39 pm

jbell wrote:jwc50, Do you know if they'll be spending the night in St. Louis? I'm about 15 minutes from St. Louis Regional (actually in Illinois). Do you have their schedule? Love to see her off in the morning.....John


John - Check the Museum website and call the hotline number; there is also another number referenced to talk to a live person I believe.

I am fairly certain it is staying there overnight. Not sure when it may be departing in the morning on the next leg. I hope you get to see it.

Thu Nov 13, 2008 7:41 pm

Nathan wrote:so no other C-119 is flying today then?


Not sure if that's the case or not. I think there was another one bought at Greybull a couple of years back that was flown to Arizona - not sure of its status.

Thu Nov 13, 2008 7:43 pm

Misterg97 wrote:You guys are taking me back over 50 years ago.


Jerry - you were flying in them during their heyday. It must have been quite an experience.

Thu Nov 13, 2008 7:46 pm

spookyboss wrote:I would love to make it into an AC-119 and tour it with our AC-47 and let's see while were at it do a heritage flight with the AC-130. :D


That would make one heck of a Heritage Flight! I saw one of the last operational AC-119K's at the 25th Anniversary Air Show at Andrews AFB in Sept. 1972.

there is a junk yard in utah that has at least 1 tail boom..

Thu Nov 13, 2008 9:48 pm

..and a set of clam shell doors for one of those.

Thu Nov 13, 2008 10:22 pm

I flew the Flight of the Phoenix C-119 to a privae strp outside of Wickenburg Az last Feb. It is supposed to be kept in flying condition, but Hans has alot of planes and not alot of help.

Thu Nov 13, 2008 10:33 pm

I talked to the FBO at Alton, and they're meeting there at 7:45AM. I'm leaving Smartt Field in the '6 at 6:30 to go see 'em off. I hope to post pics tomorrow.

Thu Nov 13, 2008 11:00 pm

Nathan wrote:so no other C-119 is flying today then?


at the moment no, apart from the one at Wickenburg, AZ

there are a further 2 in AK being made slowly airworthy though

Fri Nov 14, 2008 3:49 pm

NO news that I am aware of on the C-119 flight progress as of 3:30 PM EST today (Nov. 14).

The Flight Tracker link for St Louis Reg Airport on the musuem website does not show that it has departed or a that a departure is pending.

No updates on the website and the phone "Hotline" is rather "Cool" with the current recording still saying it is "Wednesday, Nov. 12".

Not sure if there was a second planned overnight at St Louis Regional or if weather or some other issue is keeping it there. Hopefully Saturday it will be on its way and will still be able to arrive in Hagerstown on Sunday. Hopefully we will have some new information soon.

Fri Nov 14, 2008 4:01 pm

I think the hope is to keep the C-82 and C-119 in flying shape. Of course it will take someone with the interest and willing to make the financial commitment. I looked over a C-119G a couple of years ago and was amazed at how big and complex it was. Miles of wiring and every bit as complicated as a C-130.
My guess is that the C-82, with R-2800 engines would be less than half as expensive to restore and operate.

Fri Nov 14, 2008 5:27 pm

The WX in STL area is crappy. They're stuck here 'til Sunday.

Fri Nov 14, 2008 7:29 pm

valdez25 wrote:The WX in STL area is crappy. They're stuck here 'til Sunday.


The phone hotline has been updated to confirm that weather has kept the C-119 from leaving St Louis today and that weather Sat. is expected to be poor also. The weather here in the Mid-Atlantic area is supposed to be poor on Saturday with a 100% chance of rain and possible thunderstorms. Sunday is supposed to be much better with sunshine.

According to the hotline the plan at this point is to leave St Louis Sunday morning and fly directly to Hagerstown arriving between 1:00 and 3:00 PM. I will be there.

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Fri Nov 14, 2008 8:44 pm

Here are some of the Flight of The Phoenix arriving in Glendale, Az, Last Dec

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It was funny the next day there were press interviews and I was asked how many flying C-119s there were and I said 3. I was then asked how many I had seen fly, I said none. She looked at me strange and said, Didn't you fly this one here yesterday ? said yes, and I was the Co-pilot, but I have never seen a C-119 fly, but I have flown a C-119.
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