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Is Kidnapping Legal ?

Wed Dec 03, 2008 2:39 pm

Is kidnapping legal in the U S? It seems to be if you are certain companies. I don't know TACA, but there is a story on FOX news ( yes, I do look at the other side sometimes) about TACA airline holding a planeload of passengers, including children, on a plane in California on the ground for NINE hours. Including the flight the total time on the plane was 15 hours. The were even armed cops outside the door of the airline to prevent the people from leaving their prison. This was after passengers dialed 911 for help.

Now I am sure the P R types for the airline and the cops and TSA or whoever else was involved can come up with a good explanation and justification of this event, one that gives no liability and no crime to the airline. Just like when Jetblue did the same thing.

That's all fine, but let's go with a variation of the Golden Rule. How about 'What's good for the passengers is good for the airline, TSA, etc". So, if an airline person comes into your taxi or restaurant or motel or shop, then you have a right to hold them for 9 hours. Oh, you've got to feed them, crackers and water is just fine like TACA did. I'll bet if you left the CEO and pilots of TACA in a hotel elevator or sitting on a ski chairlift for 9 hours, that customer service might improve. Do you think? When O J held some other slimy types for a few minutes in a hotel room, he got 10 years in prison. Seems a little unfair for the airlines to be able to do it to kids for 9 hours with no penalties.
Last edited by Bill Greenwood on Wed Dec 03, 2008 2:58 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Wed Dec 03, 2008 2:58 pm

Think if I was on that plane the armed guards would have to be inside and ready to use their guns. I think I could get an emergency escape or two open before the shooting started. What would TSA tell people that terrorists were trying to get off the plane to hijack Colorado?

Wed Dec 03, 2008 3:01 pm

Obergrafeter wrote:Think if I was on that plane the armed guards would have to be inside and ready to use their guns. I think I could get an emergency escape or two open before the shooting started. What would TSA tell people that terrorists were trying to get off the plane to hijack Colorado?

:D

Ryan

Wed Dec 03, 2008 3:21 pm

Just the latest in airline kidnapping...seems like Jet Blue did this not long ago. American has done it as have many others....

I think I would have to attend anger management classes if this happened to me....

http://writ.news.findlaw.com/dean/20080404.html

http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/09/28/airlines-imprisonment-as-a-business-model/

http://www.independenttraveler.com/resources/article.cfm?AID=724&category=13

http://boards.msn.com/MSNBCboards/thread.aspx?BoardID=512&ThreadID=196340&BoardsParam=HIPDelay%3d1

Wed Dec 03, 2008 3:25 pm

I know someone real close to me :wink: that faked a heart attack to get off a plane that was sitting a while and it worked. :lol:

story

Wed Dec 03, 2008 6:37 pm

Ober, even worse the TSA ( does that stand for Thugs Associated ?) shot and killed in front of his wife, an unarmed passenger that was only trying to get off the plane. This was a few years ago in Florida. The passenger was upset and tried to walk out the exit while the plane was parked at the gate. In order to cover their tracks, the TSA Gestapo and the stewardess claimed the man said he had a bomb, and this account made the media reports at first. Then later the media reported that other passengers said that the man never said anything about a bomb, only that he wanted to get off.

Of course the victim's name was published along with his history of mental problems. The identity, background, and medical/legal history of the government hit man was kept secret.

Wed Dec 03, 2008 7:24 pm

So the guy was trying to get off the plane with a bomb and hijack the Jetway! What a genius, no telling what the airlines would pay to protect them. I don't care what you call them....The TSA are all a bunch of idiots. And yes I will say that to your face...............all of you from the Admin. to the person groppers, luggage smellers and feet fetish sobs. God I would love to be on the jury if that guy that got shots' family ever sues.

Wed Dec 03, 2008 8:06 pm

Obergrafeter wrote:God I would love to be on the jury if that guy that got shots' family ever sues.


You know that'll never happen. Pilot's can't be judged by a jury of their peers - ever, but I'd bet that the TSA would be judged by their peers... :?

Ryan

Wed Dec 03, 2008 8:11 pm

Jury of their peers........................twelve of them SOBs that close together , wonder if they could find the courthouse.
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