Stoney's Bomber Mission To Mexico - Catch-22

gary1954 · **Posted:** Mon Dec 01, 2008 7:55 pm

To me, it didn't shy away from the book very far. Least that is merely my opinio. And my opinon is like a belly button, most everybody has one.

ww2John · **Posted:** Mon Dec 01, 2008 8:03 pm

Sorry, but the book is "of that era" in many ways, before they ever made a movie of it.
Didn't think much of the movie when it first came out, but that was before I was hooked on warbirds. Thought too many characters were too "hammy" (especially Orson Welles). Always liked Alan Arkin's performance though.
Now when I look at the movie, I want to see more B25's. Can only imagine how much a/c footage they shot that never made the final cut. What I would have given to work on that movie.

mustangdriver · **Posted:** Mon Dec 01, 2008 8:14 pm

gary1954 wrote:

Mr Mike Pupich one of my Favorite Gentlemen sent me
this photo of N8195H which was 6H "Miss Renee"
in Catch 22 With my Personal HERO
Lt.General Jimmy Doolittle age 100

That is a legendary picture man.

Jack Cook · **Posted:** Mon Dec 01, 2008 8:31 pm

Roger Cain · **Posted:** Mon Dec 01, 2008 9:10 pm

The picture with Doolittle was taken at an active NAS Alameda, just north of Oakland, CA.

Nice pictures with all the nose art shots.

noizeedave · **Posted:** Mon Dec 01, 2008 9:30 pm

Anyone got, or ever heard of out cuts of the filming that didnt make the movie that anyone has ever got ahold of?

B-25 C · **Posted:** Mon Dec 01, 2008 9:49 pm

Coert Munk wrote:

Hi B-25C, your question "How many of these are still around and flying?"
Please check page 2 of this thread, all a/c are mentioned there. Have fun!

My bad
I'll start reading all of the posts.
Thanks

:oops:

Jerry O'Neill · **Posted:** Mon Dec 01, 2008 10:24 pm

Stoney might be able to correct me if I'm wrong, but they used a lot of footage of the B-25's for the process shots of the actors on the sound stages in the cockpits. Every time there is a scene in the cockpit during a mission, there are B-25's outside the windows in formation. These were shots that they couldn't have gotten from old war films because they would not have matched the rest of the film.

As aviation buffs, we tend to only get excited about the scenes of the actual aircraft flying as the focus of the shot, not the actors.
When you take in to consideration the number of "mission" scenes in the finished film, there is actually more flying footage than you might normally think.

I heard or read some where that they shot over 1 million feet of footage of the aircraft, so I hope some of it is still lying around in a vault. Love to see it!
Jerry

Steve Nelson · **Posted:** Mon Dec 01, 2008 10:33 pm

What's the paint scheme on those M&M birds? At first I thought it was light gray over white, but now I'm thinking it's a coat of white with the OD/Gray showing through.

SN

Jerry O'Neill · **Posted:** Mon Dec 01, 2008 10:51 pm

I was wondering if I.N. "Junior" Burchinal is in any of those photos?
Jerry

gary1954 · **Posted:** Mon Dec 01, 2008 11:08 pm

Jerry O'Neill wrote:

Stoney might be able to correct me if I'm wrong, but they used a lot of footage of the B-25's for the process shots of the actors on the sound stages in the cockpits. Every time there is a scene in the cockpit during a mission, there are B-25's outside the windows in formation. These were shots that they couldn't have gotten from old war films because they would not have matched the rest of the film.

As aviation buffs, we tend to only get excited about the scenes of the actual aircraft flying as the focus of the shot, not the actors.
When you take in to consideration the number of "mission" scenes in the finished film, there is actually more flying footage than you might normally think.

I heard or read some where that they shot over 1 million feet of footage of the aircraft, so I hope some of it is still lying around in a vault. Love to see it!
Jerry

As I recall, it was in Air Classis *Pukes* back when they first had an indepth article on the Catch 22 Air Force, that it was mentioned that there were indeed thousand of feet of airral footage, and it went on the cutting room floor

gary1954 · **Posted:** Mon Dec 01, 2008 11:13 pm

I talked to a mechanic that did a lot of work on the Catch 22 Air Force and he told me that N10V Berlin Express was a "Heavy" airplane.
Stoney, do you know who flew her, still have a list of the pealoats assigned to specific aircraft?

Ztex · **Posted:** Tue Dec 02, 2008 12:29 am

Wahoo! Great nose art!

Thanks Jack and Stoney!

Stoney · **Posted:** Tue Dec 02, 2008 12:36 am

You're asking me to remember who flew what after 39 years? I can't remember what I had for breakfest:) I'll try!

noizeedave · **Posted:** Tue Dec 02, 2008 1:48 am

Stoney, great stories. This is probably. the greatest post in a while. Sorry guys, I have a thing for 25s and 47s obviously, so I'm biased. :shock:

Would to hear more stories or see more epics if anyone wants to share!

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