Stoney's Bomber Mission To Mexico - Catch-22

mustangdriver · **Posted:** Thu Dec 04, 2008 3:50 am

If it is cool with stoney, I was going to try and do a little work on the pictures to try and clean them up, and then try to make other look even more like WWII pics(even thought that is not hard). Is that O.K.?

gary1954 · **Posted:** Thu Dec 04, 2008 8:08 am

I am certain they would look great cleaned up, however (but) I find them cool with the junk on them, but then hey...that's just me

mustangdriver · **Posted:** Thu Dec 04, 2008 8:18 am

Oh I know they are cool as heck as is, I was just going to give it a shot I will show you what I come up with.

Jack Cook · **Posted:** Fri Dec 05, 2008 9:33 am

More pictures tonight!

Coert Munk · **Joined:** Mon Feb 07, 2005 2:09 am **Posts:** 169

Surprise us!

TonyM · **Posted:** Fri Dec 05, 2008 3:03 pm

gary1954 wrote:

Flat 12x2 wrote:

Robbie Stuart wrote:

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the Late Great Frank Tallman told me that the cross winds at location were very bad, and d a m n e d near dangerous

Evidence of that cross wind condition can be seen in the massive take-off scene (the part where the airplanes are taking off toward the camera). One B-25 can be seen in a severe yaw condition just after lift off. Probably a good amount of propeller turbulence/disturbed air there too.

I was quoted in the Chicago Tribune last year regarding Heller's great work Catch 22.

TonyM.

TonyM.

gary1954 · **Posted:** Fri Dec 05, 2008 3:49 pm

T J Johansen wrote:

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I guess this would be N10V as it still has curtains in the windows...

T J

I Strongly believe you to be correct in that this is 10V, also note the paint still visible on the tires.

Jack Cook · **Posted:** Sat Dec 06, 2008 5:08 pm

Stoney, mech & Stu Kunkee

Stoney · **Posted:** Sat Dec 06, 2008 11:21 pm

The pix of Passinate Paulette with the two mechs is after it was painted as with a M&M scheme then re-painted

Jerry O'Neill · **Posted:** Sun Dec 07, 2008 1:12 am

Thanks Stoney!

That's the kind of info I find very interesting.
As someone in the video production business, I found it interesting that they spent time and money re-painting the aircraft twice during the filming.

I have always assumed they shot all the M&M planes after they finished with the combat aircraft scenes. I thought this because many of the aircraft that came back to Tallmantz were still in the M&M paint.

It would've made financial and shooting planning sense to only paint them once, but I'm sure there was a reason for it, which I would love to know.

And BTW Stoney, thanks so much for taking the time with a bunch of "Airplane Film Geeks" like me!
Blue skies,
Jerry

T J Johansen · **Posted:** Sun Dec 07, 2008 8:27 am

Jack Cook wrote:

Stoney, mech & Stu Kunkee

Are these of the same a/c?

T J

Jerry O'Neill · **Posted:** Sun Dec 07, 2008 9:47 am

"Paulette" doesn't seem to have the same "tan" camo paint as the other and unless they repainted the prop dome, I think they're different aircraft.

Jerry

Stoney · **Posted:** Sun Dec 07, 2008 10:48 am

I flew with Hal Gray in Paulette the first half of the time we were in Mexico and with Stu Kunkee the last half in the no name plane. We had a 3 week break in April and went back home for that, then back down till we left in June.

gary1954 · **Posted:** Sun Dec 07, 2008 12:01 pm

T J Johansen wrote:

Jack Cook wrote:

Stoney, mech & Stu Kunkee

Are these of the same a/c?

T J

The B-25 with the Girl riding a Bomb is N9456Z now Briefing Time
Mr. Stoney's Passionate Paulette was according to my records was N3507G

Neal Nurmi · **Posted:** Sun Dec 07, 2008 12:23 pm

You know -- it's actually a really good thing that these are being scanned and digitalised now -- you can see considerable color shift in some of them. A lot of photographic material from those years is deteriorating rapidly with age and will some day be useless.

Thanks Stoney and Jack for this great thread...

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