Planes of Fame Aircraft Questions

[Andy Marden]

Mike,
The Meteor is VT260, indeed an F.4
Sabre FU-067 is 51-13067/NX186SE.
I believe the Yak-18 is actually N18YK, but am willing to be proved wrong.
Finally, what is your source for the F-84F being 51-1378 - I have never seen a report of this serial at Chino (or anywhere else) before.
Regards
Andy Marden

AUTHOR: USA Military Out of Service

[mrhenniger]

The Meteor is VT260, indeed an F.4
Sabre FU-067 is 51-13067/NX186SE.

Thanks very much Andy!

Finally, what is your source for the F-84F being 51-1378 - I have never seen a report of this serial at Chino (or anywhere else) before.

Aaaaahhhh... I am quite proud of that one! When I first saw it in 1997 I just took a picture an walked away figuring I would find it listed someplace. WRONG! It was a thorn in my side until I was nose-to-nose with it again this past January. I then had an idea when I thought, I bet this thing as a data plate someplace. And wadda ya know... but there was one in the main gear wheel well on the starboard side. It look a little spit and rubbing off the mud (not exactly parked on a concrete ramp) and I discovered the s/n stamped into the metal. Mystery solved!!!

AUTHOR: USA Military Out of Service

I probably should know more about this book but don't. Tell me more. ISBN number?

Mike

[TimAPNY]

Very Strange, I was trying to update my Planes of Fame pictures last night. I guess I have more work to do tonight.

Thanks for the Help Mike (and all the others who have added info)

[mrhenniger]

I believe the Yak-18 is actually N18YK, but am willing to be proved wrong.

I will defer the ID of this Yak to New Zealand Dave. He is the Yak expert around here.

Mike

[DaveM2]

Mike

Sorry but my Yak research involved models 1-11. I don't know a thing about 18s.

Dave

[mrhenniger]

Mike

Sorry but my Yak research involved models 1-11. I don't know a thing about 18s.

Dave

You god like image has just been shattered! Who do I worship now?

Mike

[bdk]

I will defer the ID of this Yak to New Zealand Dave. He is the Yak expert around here.

I wasn't aware that Dave had ever even visited Canada!

[Andy Marden]

AUTHOR: USA Military Out of Service

I probably should know more about this book but don't. Tell me more. ISBN number?

Mike[/quote]

Mike,
The third edition was published in May 03, ISBN 1 898129 83 5.
It is a 300 page softback which list preserved/derelict/stored etc ex military aircraft around the USA by location.
Regards,
Andy

[mrhenniger]

Thanks Andy.

Everyone: The unidentified airframe list has been reduced to...

A Skyhawk in one of the north side hangers…
http://community.webshots.com/photo/268 ... 4274FaqfWV
…possibly an A-4L.

A MiG-21 in the "Fighter Jets" part of the museum…
http://community.webshots.com/photo/268 ... 7687wiMEMh
…where I am looking for a construction number

I found this cockpit section at the main complex…
http://community.webshots.com/photo/268 ... 5674LjLyyA
…and this fuselage section at the Fighter Jets Museum…
http://community.webshots.com/photo/268 ... 4804rHaVgu
…The question is… Do they belong to the same airframe? Even if not do you happen to know of any serial numbers for these airframe? It appears that the cockpit was used in the filming of "Thriteen Days".

I know the cow has almost been milked dry, but if you have any info for these airframes please let me know.

Mike

[Andy Marden]

A MiG-21 in the "Fighter Jets" part of the museum…
http://community.webshots.com/photo/268 ... 7687wiMEMh
…where I am looking for a construction number

Mike

Mike,
Whoops, missed that one. 2149 is an ex Czech Air Force MiG-21R, c/n 94R2149.
Regards,
Andy

AUTHOR: USA Military Out of Service

[RickH]

The A-4 is most probably an L model. Notice the early C model nose, original canopy design and the standard Skyhawk tail. M models have the squared off tail with the bullet fairing, different nose, redesigned canopy,and no apu exhaust,... there were many additional changes as well but those listed were the most apparent.

[mrhenniger]

The A-4 is most probably an L model. Notice the early C model nose, original canopy design and the standard Skyhawk tail. M models have the squared off tail with the bullet fairing, different nose, redesigned canopy,and no apu exhaust,... there were many additional changes as well but those listed were the most apparent.

Thanks Rick. I had that pointed out to me before and I agree. Also there with something about the spacing (or lack of) of the engine inlets to the fuselage.

What I was hoping someone could tell me would be a s/n, c/n or c/r. There were not any markings on it at the time I got the picture. Of course I didn't think to check the wheel wells for data plates, etc. One more thing to add to my photo tour process, and put into practice!

Mike

[RickH]

Yes, the inlets are another tipoff. Reflects the change fro Wright J-65 to the Pratt & Whitney J-52 in the E model and subsequent variants.
I checked the Skyhawk Assoc. display listing and they don't show an A-4 held by Planes of Fame. For anyone who might look the BuNo would be on the instrument panel or on a tag on the nosewheel gear door.