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Tue Feb 03, 2009 12:22 am

Hey Mark...not really on the list of biggies, but Dayton does do an airshow every year...having a brain cramp right now and cannot remember the name of the show :roll: Always a fine weekend when ya can hit the airshow one day and that little museum the other (NMUSAF). Have yet to go where there were a lot of warbirds...usually have a combination of different flying types from current military birds to some civilian stuff. Not a bad way to spend a weekend!

Tue Feb 03, 2009 8:55 am

JDK wrote:We had a similar discussion on another forum over which were the top ten shows to see before you quit. This was looking at vintage aviation (not just warbirds) with no bias to better flying or greater numbers attending - either or both is great. My list (mid 2007) was:

1. EAA Airventure, Oshkosh, USA
2. Shuttleworth (day or evening show) UK
3. Flying Legends, Duxford, UK
4. Reno, USA*
5. La Ferte Alais, France
6. Classic Fighters, Marlborough, NZ
7. Chino, USA*
8. Warbirds over Wanaka, NZ*
9. CAF 'Airsho' USA*

The ones with the * I've not seen, so it's secondhand info. You'll note it's global, not just USA as well, but AFAIK it's a small world. There's a lot 'bubbling under' for the no 10 spot. ;)

HTH.


Good list, James, that would be very close to my order. Notwithstanding you say it is about vintage rather than warbird aircraft, however, that list is very warbird heavy after #1 and #2. There are 2 or 3 American antique fly-ins that should muscle out at least #9, maybe also #8 if civil is taken at par with military.

August

Tue Feb 03, 2009 11:31 am

6trn4brn wrote:Hey Mark...not really on the list of biggies, but Dayton does do an airshow every year...having a brain cramp right now and cannot remember the name of the show :roll: Always a fine weekend when ya can hit the airshow one day and that little museum the other (NMUSAF). Have yet to go where there were a lot of warbirds...usually have a combination of different flying types from current military birds to some civilian stuff. Not a bad way to spend a weekend!


We made the Dayton show in '03. The 100th anniversary of flight. I doubt that any subsequent Dayton show will ever match that one.

Mudge the traveller

Tue Feb 03, 2009 12:47 pm

JDK wrote:We had a similar discussion on another forum over which were the top ten shows to see before you quit. This was looking at vintage aviation (not just warbirds) with no bias to better flying or greater numbers attending - either or both is great. My list (mid 2007) was:

1. EAA Airventure, Oshkosh, USA
2. Shuttleworth (day or evening show) UK
3. Flying Legends, Duxford, UK
4. Reno, USA*
5. La Ferte Alais, France
6. Classic Fighters, Marlborough, NZ
7. Chino, USA*
8. Warbirds over Wanaka, NZ*
9. CAF 'Airsho' USA*

The ones with the * I've not seen, so it's secondhand info. You'll note it's global, not just USA as well, but AFAIK it's a small world. There's a lot 'bubbling under' for the no 10 spot. ;)

HTH.



no geneseo? :?

TOM

Tue Feb 03, 2009 6:36 pm

I have to put a plug in for TOM. The list is posted and keeps getting better. If you need any help while your in MI. let me know. I think I can get you the nickle tour at YAM if you have time. JOE

Wed Feb 04, 2009 7:49 am

k5083 wrote:
JDK wrote:We had a similar discussion on another forum over which were the top ten shows to see before you quit. This was looking at vintage aviation (not just warbirds) with no bias to better flying or greater numbers attending - either or both is great. My list (mid 2007) was:

1. EAA Airventure, Oshkosh, USA
2. Shuttleworth (day or evening show) UK
3. Flying Legends, Duxford, UK
4. Reno, USA*
5. La Ferte Alais, France
6. Classic Fighters, Marlborough, NZ
7. Chino, USA*
8. Warbirds over Wanaka, NZ*
9. CAF 'Airsho' USA*

The ones with the * I've not seen, so it's secondhand info. You'll note it's global, not just USA as well, but AFAIK it's a small world. There's a lot 'bubbling under' for the no 10 spot. ;)

HTH.


Good list, James, that would be very close to my order. Notwithstanding you say it is about vintage rather than warbird aircraft, however, that list is very warbird heavy after #1 and #2. There are 2 or 3 American antique fly-ins that should muscle out at least #9, maybe also #8 if civil is taken at par with military.

We will all have our own biases, however I didn't say "it is about vintage rather than warbird aircraft" - I said "This was looking at vintage aviation (not just warbirds)" - regarding warbirds (W.W.II era and around) as one facet of the whole 'vintage' mix. Despite the reportage, La Ferte Alais and Omaka (Marlborough) have significant civil components; they just don't tent to get the photos published as much as the camou stuff.

Again places like Omaka and LFA score points (on my scale) of multi-national type representation - US, British, local Eastern European etc. (I find endless Waco subtypes of passing interest.) I like European and antipodean shows because of the mix of European, British and American types.

Also a 'fly in' isn't an 'airshow', however big - although they perhaps deserve a while category of their own I agree.
Nathan wrote:no geneseo? :?

No, Nathan, despite your one-man marketing blitz. ;) The Geneseo reports I saw last year were of an interesting show, and great if you are local, but not enough to justify travelling around the world for - IMHO, the others all are.

Anyone's welcome to make and show their own list. I reckon we'll spot Nathan's for the top five all beginning with 'g'! ;)

Regards,

Re: Of these 3 airshows ...

Wed Feb 04, 2009 1:36 pm

Nathan wrote:
Hellcat wrote:Which one airshow would you WIXers think to be the best all-around warbird show or showing this year? I'm planning to attend possibly one of them and wonder who here has an idea of which would be best to attend for warbirds. Oshkosh, TOM, Geneseo, can't do em all. I will be in Michigan sometime after late spring for a few days thawing out a Swift. Going to attend Chino hopefully as well. From what I have seen over the years I still think Duxford is the one to not miss. Been there twice. very cool place and very nice airshow. Flying seems to be a little more radical there. Not in a bad way ... :wink:

M


Geneseo. :) :P You could have the chance to meet me :twisted: plus the possiblity of seeing a F6F Hellcat this year. 8)

Cheers to Marks dad! :drink3:


Thanks Nathan, we'll see what happens. BTW, who's hellcat will be there?

Wed Feb 04, 2009 2:27 pm

I have no idea Mark...just stating a possibility. :P

I dont know about the other shows but from photos it seems the croud line is far away from the flying aircraft. Geneseo you are pretty darn near close when the warbirds make their passes. A particular pass of a Hurricane passing over my head at about 50 feet comes to mind. :idea: I don't know about other people here but I like getting as close as I can to these aircraft.

Wed Feb 04, 2009 2:35 pm

Airshow passes MUST be at 500' from the crowd line per FAA rules. There are also other rules that apply.

Now some places people can get say at the end of the runway and get a bit closer, but that's not the intent.

Ryan
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