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When Hollywood Ruled The Skies - Volumes 1 through 4 by Bruce Oriss


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 5:38 pm 
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I used to watch this with my dad back in the day when I was younger. :D Man how come they can't come out with something like this again? Details, great photage, accurate, and always liked the narrator. Anyone know who it was?

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One of my favorites from WINGS was on the XB-35 and YB-49. Great stuff!


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the XB-70
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LriDpYQ ... re=related


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My favorite was the F6F. I wore my video tape copy out on that one. The episode for the F4U and the AD/A-1 Skyraider was also very good. I agree that narrator had a voice that would keep you attentive.


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Yeah these are great I have quite a few on VHS. My daughter just watched the B-25 episode this past weekend to do a report.

I have heard 2 different narrators. One American and one English. The B-25 episoe was the English Narrator.

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Those were great! 8)

This new crap called "Great Planes" is laughable.
Its so inaccurate, I can't even watch it.

Bring back "Dogfights" or re-run "Wings" :idea:

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I have fond memories of that series, though all I have left on VHS is the P-51 and B-17 episodes - both narrated by the American narrator. I recently noticed that the P-51 episode can be seen on Youtube, but with the English narrator instead - same exact script. I was surprised to notice that the Military Channel's Great Planes episode on the P-51 heavily uses the same script from the original Wings episode, though the video/editing shown doesn't back up what is being said.

With the warbird related shows I have seen lately on TV, I have been thinking a lot along the lines of how much nicer it would be if Wings would be brought back - a very thorough, and very credible source of information, with excellent footage besides - the series definitely kept my interest going in warbirds as a child growing up.


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I loved the B-17 episode. I wish they would bring those out on DVD

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F1G Pilot and I worked on a few of the Luftwaffe editions of Wings, and it is still great to see the series. Another run would be neat.


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i can hear walter cronkite narrating in my head right now!!!

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Nathan wrote:
Details, great photage, accurate, and always liked the narrator. Anyone know who it was?


I just looked some of the episodes I have which are copyrighted 1989. Luke Swann is an english narrator that did alot of them, but also Phil Martin (english) and Robert Courtney (not english). So a few different narrators.

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Luke Swann was Australian, not English. Early episodes, such as the B-29 one that I took part in, were narrated by John Honey, also Australian. The series you know as "Wings" was actually called "Great Planes" when it was originally made in Hobart, Tasmania . . . first was the F-111, then the B-29, XB-70, F-14 . . .

The accuracy in the series was down to Barry Cawthorn, a retired Cathay Pacific flight engineer who was also my Technical Advisor on Black Jack's Last Mission. A really nice guy who had a truly broad and deep knowledge of aircraft.

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I remember they used to have Wings Marathons on the original Discovery Channel on New Years Day. Talk about being glued to the set. Then they used to run the re-runs at 11 PM...I stayed up late many a night.

The accuracy was fairly remarkable and the footage was always good. The latest incarnation "Great Planes" just sucks. How can a show that was produced nearly 20 years before Great Planes totally run circles around the newer show?

The only thing that made me chuckle from "Wings" was a passage in the A-26 Invader episode. "With a top speed of 355 mph, it was as fast as an ME-109E, so an Invader pilot had an option of dogfighting an enemy plane". While factually correct...the Invader was as fast as the ME-109E, but the problem was that the the "E" model was the standard model in 1940, and was basically extinct by 1944.


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My favorite series was Wings of the Luftwaffe..... back in the days of good cable tv <sigh>

I never learned so much, so quickly.


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Steve Birdsall wrote:
Luke Swann was Australian, not English. Early episodes, such as the B-29 one that I took part in, were narrated by John Honey, also Australian. The series you know as "Wings" was actually called "Great Planes" when it was originally made in Hobart, Tasmania . . . first was the F-111, then the B-29, XB-70, F-14 . . .

The accuracy in the series was down to Barry Cawthorn, a retired Cathay Pacific flight engineer who was also my Technical Advisor on Black Jack's Last Mission. A really nice guy who had a truly broad and deep knowledge of aircraft.


Sorry Steve no offense meant. He sounds more English than Aussie to me (keep in mind I'm no cultural expert with bad hearing :lol: ). I take it from your tense that Luke is no longer with us? Of all my old aircraft episodes the ones where he narrates I enjoy most. Also I like the soundtrack used on the early episodes better than the subsequent releases.

Now that you mentioned it. While looking at the episode credits I did notice that even though the show was "Wings", some of them the credits started with "Great Planes". I really need to get everything transferred over to digital.

Have these been release in DVD? (anyone)


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The only thing that made me chuckle from "Wings" was a passage in the A-26 Invader episode.

How about the "Tarzan" bomb in the B-29 episode? When the producer Colin Grubb asked me what I thought was the worst error in the program (there's always more than one!) I told him it was using "Tarzan" instead of "Tarzon". He was suitably repentant. :lol:

That was the original version, narrated by John Honey. I'll be damned if the same error wasn't repeated by the American narrator in the re-dubbed version!

Colin was the creative force behind those early "Great Planes" episodes, including the music. For that reason I took him to New Guinea when we filmed Black Jack's Last Mission.

Since then he's produced two of the most popular network shows broadcast here: Gardening Australia and Collectors, which I'll be watching later tonight.

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