B-29's in Japanese Harbors

[the330thbg]

Has anyone heard of any investigations into some of the crash sites into many of Japanese Harbors? Has to be dozens of B-29's in there. Curious if the Japanese have ever looked for them?

[Pat Carry]

It would be an interesting find if any were located.

[John Dupre]

Does anyone know if there is an active wreck chasing movement in Japan? There have to be hundreds of wrecks and some areas are actually fairly remote and not heavily populated. I am thinking of the crash of an SB2C Helldiver in which the gunner, an Native American, got out and survived on the run until the war was over.

[jet1]

Does anyone know if there is an active wreck chasing movement in Japan? There have to be hundreds of wrecks and some areas are actually fairly remote and not heavily populated. I am thinking of the crash of an SB2C Helldiver in which the gunner, an Native American, got out and survived on the run until the war was over.

I doubt very much that activities of this type are looked on favorably by their gubmint....afterall they were an honorable and peaceful nation and we went and attacked them!...oh and that stuff in china that they did ...well that was americans disguised as Japanese!

[mustangdriver]

The Japaness Govn. doesn't allow for the search of Wrecks this has been their policy for close to 40 Years, the only time's this has been different is when a wreck was discovered and both the JSAD and US Military did joint recovery work and anything that was found was scrapped.

[gale_dono]

Does anyone know if there is an active wreck chasing movement in Japan? There have to be hundreds of wrecks and some areas are actually fairly remote and not heavily populated. I am thinking of the crash of an SB2C Helldiver in which the gunner, an Native American, got out and survived on the run until the war was over.

I doubt very much that activities of this type are looked on favorably by their gubmint....afterall they were an honorable and peaceful nation and we went and attacked them!...oh and that stuff in china that they did ...well that was americans disguised as Japanese!

your trollan is weak

[mustangdriver]

Does anyone know if there is an active wreck chasing movement in Japan? There have to be hundreds of wrecks and some areas are actually fairly remote and not heavily populated. I am thinking of the crash of an SB2C Helldiver in which the gunner, an Native American, got out and survived on the run until the war was over.

I doubt very much that activities of this type are looked on favorably by their gubmint....afterall they were an honorable and peaceful nation and we went and attacked them!...oh and that stuff in china that they did ...well that was americans disguised as Japanese!

Jet 1, you and I are very much on the same page on that one.

[jet1]

and is born out with fact!

your trollan is weak[/quote]

[shoki]

The Japaness Govn. doesn't allow for the search of Wrecks this has been their policy for close to 40 Years, the only time's this has been different is when a wreck was discovered and both the JSAD and US Military did joint recovery work and anything that was found was scrapped.

What do you base this on? There has been quite a few recoveries around Japan over the years. If, you want to go search in a harbor, or in one of the lakes, there is no law forbidding you from diving. As for finding anything on land forget it Japan is too populated.

[jdvoss]

I would highy suspect that B-29 wreckages in Japan's harbors and bays are probably tombs as well and should not be disturbed. If you have a desire to investigate intact ( or near intact) underwater wreckages of the type I would suggest investigating the waters surrounding Guam, Saipan and Tinian. They no doubt hold many B-29's that could not lower their landing gear and made water landing so the runways would not be tied up.

[michaelharadon]

I would highy suspect that B-29 wreckages in Japan's harbors and bays are probably tombs as well and should not be disturbed.

Why not? The guys inside them have been dead for a long time now. We buy houses, and perhaps also cars in which people have died. How many of us have eaten produce grown on fields that that were soaked by the blood of the dead during the Indian wars, the Revolution, and the Civil War?

I would really, really like to read something that would help me understand the logic behind leaving aircraft that were honored by carrying the dead on their last mission, and their souls on their last flight, out of sight.

How does it make sense to sanctify and preserve weapons of war that have killed, but not those that contained the killed?

[michaelharadon]

I would highy suspect that B-29 wreckages in Japan's harbors and bays are probably tombs as well and should not be disturbed.

Why not? The guys inside them have been dead for a long time now. They won't care; it won't be disturbing them.

We buy houses, and perhaps also cars in which people have died. How many of us have eaten produce grown on fields that that were soaked by the blood of the dead during the Indian wars, the Revolution, and the Civil War?

I would really, really like to read something that would help me understand the logic behind leaving aircraft that were honored by carrying the dead on their last mission, and their souls on their last flight, out of sight.

How does it make sense to sanctify and preserve weapons of war that have killed, but not those that contained the killed?

[DaveM2]

The Japaness Govn. doesn't allow for the search of Wrecks this has been their policy for close to 40 Years, the only time's this has been different is when a wreck was discovered and both the JSAD and US Military did joint recovery work and anything that was found was scrapped.

Incorrect. Several recoveries are on display in Japan that were found locally. The George, a couple of Zeros, a Val and Ki-27. There is also an effort via the US to recover a lake bound P-51.

Dave

[ZRX61]

I would highy suspect that B-29 wreckages in Japan's harbors and bays are probably tombs as well and should not be disturbed.

Why not? The guys inside them have been dead for a long time now. They won't care; it won't be disturbing them.

We buy houses, and perhaps also cars in which people have died. How many of us have eaten produce grown on fields that that were soaked by the blood of the dead during the Indian wars, the Revolution, and the Civil War?

I would really, really like to read something that would help me understand the logic behind leaving aircraft that were honored by carrying the dead on their last mission, and their souls on their last flight, out of sight.

How does it make sense to sanctify and preserve weapons of war that have killed, but not those that contained the killed?

Why not a petition to raise the USS Arizona & see how far ya get with that idea.. Ever hear of "war graves"?

[tom d. friedman]

i was rather disappointed at that statement too, it sounded rather callous. a war grave is a place of respect & honor.