NMUSAF's CASA 2.111H

Tue Feb 24, 2009 6:28 pm

It sure would be nice to see this plane on display one day www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/factsheets/fa ... p?id=10836

Tue Feb 24, 2009 6:40 pm

Yeah, that's one of those gems they should assemble and put on display "as is" until they have time to pull it and put it into restoration... kind of like what I think they should do with Flak Bait over at the NASM. Speaking of Flak Bait...

Tue Feb 24, 2009 7:47 pm

Unfortunately it is up for sale to the highest bidder with no title transfer included and a permanent no fly restriction on the sale.

Who in their right mind would put good money into a deal like that ?

Tue Feb 24, 2009 8:20 pm

Some one that wants to preserve an aircraft, like another museum. I heard through the grapevine that the museum board is pulling plans on selling it and are going to display it. At this point just a rumor though.

Tue Feb 24, 2009 8:46 pm

There's nothing wrong with that plane staying in a museum. They all don't have to be flyers. I happen to prefer static museum aircraft...

Tue Feb 24, 2009 9:29 pm

For sale?

I thought there was a long-term plan to convert it to He-111 configuration with Jumo engines. (Not that the current economic climate would allow such a task, but it would be nice to see that done.)

Wed Feb 25, 2009 7:44 am

For some reason I thought we were talking about the JU-52. There were never any plans on selling the 111. There are plans to extend the WWII Gallery as well.

Wed Feb 25, 2009 7:50 am

Thanks Chris..I was worried there for a minute.

I remember back in the mid '90s the General (who I believe was in charge of Restoration at the time) gave a talk at a model show in Dayton. He brought along a piston from one of the Jumo engines intended for the 111, and told us about their recovery. When they started disassembling one of the engines, it promptly dumped oil all over the floor. A quick thinking volunteer grabbed a coffee can to catch it, and they sent the oil over to the labs for analysis to see how good it was, and determine if it was synthetic or not.

SN

Wed Feb 25, 2009 7:58 am

That would be awesome. I wish I lived closer so that I could see some of that. For as much crap as the General catches here, he has done an amazing job with the museum. The museum years ago was restore it to look nice from the outside, and good enough. The General has taken it to the level of, restore it to be as close to combat ready in it's time as we can. All systems such as electronics and such are installed, although some materials are not the original materials so that it will hold up better. I don't mean to be playing for the band here, but there is alot that goes on behind the scenes, that doesn't get talked about.

Wed Feb 25, 2009 8:20 am

Got my wires crossed , too. Sorry.

Wed Feb 25, 2009 8:37 am

RickH wrote:Got my wires crossed , too. Sorry.

Is it me or did it say JU-52 at one time? Ha ha

Wed Feb 25, 2009 8:42 am

RickH wrote:Got my wires crossed , too. Sorry.

Rick,I could have sworn that two or three years ago I did see the 211 advertised in a similar manner to the Ju-52 in Trade-A-Plane and a couple of other sources (Barnstormers). I remember thinking at the time what an unwise decision that was. Maybe they have changed thier mind, but I am pretty sure they did try to trade/sell it within the last five years.

Wed Feb 25, 2009 9:11 am

I don't remember that at all. Not saying it didn't happen, but never saw it or heard about it.

Wed Feb 25, 2009 11:04 am

mustangdriver wrote:The museum years ago was restore it to look nice from the outside, and good enough. The General has taken it to the level of, restore it to be as close to combat ready in it's time as we can. All systems such as electronics and such are installed......

As an aside, the NASM Fw190D-9 was restored before I was interested in warbirds. From the photos I've seen, I think it received the level of treatment you describe. I hope some day it can be given another restoration to the level of the F-8 on display. In fact, now would be a good time to use the industry experience from the Yellow 10 restoration to bring the D-9 up to date. Wishful thinking, but it could be another gleaming example in the Hazy center if it was polished up.

Wed Feb 25, 2009 12:34 pm

Me too. There are a few things that I am trying to help change. One is to bring in the birds on poles and get them to those that will take care of them. What I mean is that if an aircraft is on outside display, and very well upkept, then that is one thing, it is another to see some of the ones that no one cares about, or can't upkeep. I have other ideas, I ty to press on with, but they are boring and mundane.